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11-28-2007, 06:39 PM

This is why I find statements like "you made me angry" so amusing and lacking merit.
It is simply not true.

Aliantha · 11-28-2007, 06:44 PM

My point is, someone doesn't have to change their POV to have been influenced by the discussion.

Stormieweather · 11-28-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Sometimes, sometimes I just want interesting, scholarly, thoughtful banter, selfishly perhaps, but true.
If they are not thinking but I am, at that point, is fine with me.
Either way, it was choice on their part and I have made them think nothing. If someone changes their view on something it is because they have chosen to adopt a new POV. No one can force you to think something through casual conversation.

No, but actively listening instead of merely looking for points to refute in the other person's stance or arguing from the standpoint of convincing your opponent of your rightness might give you some new insights into or angles to the issue that hadn't occurred to you previously.

True listening is an art form. Arguing for the joy of debate is a different skill.

Stormieweather · 11-28-2007, 07:35 PM

Oh and Bibles in hotel rooms? Who cares?? Doesn't bother me any more than religious billboards looming in front of my face as I drive or commercials on TV.

/shrug

classicman · 11-28-2007, 07:39 PM

Stormie - I bow to you.

You nailed it all in two concise posts.

11-29-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormieweather

No, but actively listening instead of merely looking for points to refute in the other person's stance or arguing from the standpoint of convincing your opponent of your rightness might give you some new insights into or angles to the issue that hadn't occurred to you previously.

True listening is an art form. Arguing for the joy of debate is a different skill.

Debate and arguing have nothing in common.

Perry Winkle · 11-29-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Debate and arguing have nothing in common.

Besides being synonyms and similar sets of definitions, true.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-29-2007, 10:43 PM

Perhaps he had forensic debate in mind.

All else being equal, I rather prefer a Gideon Bible present in a hotel room I'm in than absent. Not that I give them a lot of use, it is true.

11-28-2007, 06:44 PM	#77
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	My point is, someone doesn't have to change their POV to have been influenced by the discussion. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-28-2007, 07:35 PM	#79
Stormieweather Wearing her bitch boots Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Floriduh Posts: 1,181	Oh and Bibles in hotel rooms? Who cares?? Doesn't bother me any more than religious billboards looming in front of my face as I drive or commercials on TV. /shrug __________________ "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Mahatma Gandhi

11-28-2007, 06:39 PM	#76
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	This is why I find statements like "you made me angry" so amusing and lacking merit. It is simply not true.

11-28-2007, 07:39 PM	#80
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Stormie - I bow to you. You nailed it all in two concise posts.

11-29-2007, 10:43 PM	#83
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Perhaps he had forensic debate in mind. All else being equal, I rather prefer a Gideon Bible present in a hotel room I'm in than absent. Not that I give them a lot of use, it is true.

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