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Aliantha · 02-24-2009, 10:38 PM

Why not?

TheMercenary · 02-24-2009, 10:39 PM

They are mini corps you so love to hate. The rich!

Aliantha · 02-24-2009, 10:40 PM

I don't hate rich people.

I'd like to be one some day. lol

classicman · 02-24-2009, 10:41 PM

Why? What makes their opinion any more valid than anyone elses? Why should they get to be on TV espousing their political points when the average person whose points are just as valid cannot?
Why should Sean Penn be allowed to go off at the award ceremony about his feelings regarding same sex marriage?

sugarpop · 02-24-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Why? What makes their opinion any more valid than anyone elses? Why should they get to be on TV espousing their political points when the average person whose points are just as valid cannot?
Why should Sean Penn be allowed to go off at the award ceremony about his feelings regarding same sex marriage?

What makes their opinion any LESS valid? If you were well-known, wouldn't you want to use your voice to support things or causes you believe in? I know I would...

And ftr, Sean Penn did that because the ROLE he won the award for was that of a gay man who was murdered. The things he said were very relevant.

Aliantha · 02-24-2009, 10:43 PM

It's not that he's allowed to. It's that he has the opportunity to.

The thing to consider is that he's not the only one to have those views, so he's speaking on behalf of all the others who don't have the same opportunity to do so.

That's why celebrities are able to get away with it.

sugarpop · 02-24-2009, 10:49 PM

I would just add, the Academy Awards, while watched by the world, are INDUSTRY AWARDS. There is no reason why he shouldn't have made the speech he made.

classicman · 02-24-2009, 11:31 PM

There is no reason why he should have.

Happy Monkey · 02-25-2009, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

I would just add, the Academy Awards, while watched by the world, are INDUSTRY AWARDS. There is no reason why he shouldn't have made the speech he made.

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Originally Posted by classicman

There is no reason why he should have.

One reason he should have is that he wanted to. What is the reason he shouldn't have?

If someone ends up with an audience, I applaud any efforts on their part to say something important, even at the risk of losing some people from their fanbase. If you don't want celebrities to say anything meaningful, why listen to them talk? And if you don't listen to them talk, why care about whether they're saying anything meaningful?

Aliantha · 02-24-2009, 11:32 PM

Well they have to talk about something. What's wrong with talking about the theme of the movie?

classicman · 02-25-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Well they have to talk about something. What's wrong with talking about the theme of the movie?

Nothing - keep it to that - all of them. I used him as the latest example and perhaps a poor one. Oh well.
Take the award say thank and go away. I don't think its right for them to use that setting to espouse their political beliefs. Put it on a blog.

That would be akin to me talking politics to every client I speak to, or when someone calls in for IT help, or the pizza delivery guy or your auto mechanic...

xoxoxoBruce · 02-25-2009, 08:31 AM

You and the pizza guy and the mechanic can talk politics, or whatever, but you risk losing your customer. So do actors.

sugarpop · 02-28-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Nothing - keep it to that - all of them. I used him as the latest example and perhaps a poor one. Oh well.
Take the award say thank and go away. I don't think its right for them to use that setting to espouse their political beliefs. Put it on a blog.

That would be akin to me talking politics to every client I speak to, or when someone calls in for IT help, or the pizza delivery guy or your auto mechanic...

No, it isn't really the same thing at all. It is an award show for industry people. While it may be broadcast to the masses, it is still an industry show awarding excellence in that industry. And most of the people in that industry happen to support gay rights, which is partly what the movie was about. See the difference?

sugarpop · 02-25-2009, 12:38 AM

Same thing. Makes more sense than paying bonuses to people when the company is going down in flames...

classicman · 02-25-2009, 08:53 AM

They live in a fantasy world 99.99999% of us can only dream of.
Whatevah.

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classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Why? What makes their opinion any more valid than anyone elses? Why should they get to be on TV espousing their political points when the average person whose points are just as valid cannot? Why should Sean Penn be allowed to go off at the award ceremony about his feelings regarding same sex marriage? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-24-2009, 10:43 PM	#6
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It's not that he's allowed to. It's that he has the opportunity to. The thing to consider is that he's not the only one to have those views, so he's speaking on behalf of all the others who don't have the same opportunity to do so. That's why celebrities are able to get away with it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	I would just add, the Academy Awards, while watched by the world, are INDUSTRY AWARDS. There is no reason why he shouldn't have made the speech he made.

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classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	There is no reason why he should have. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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02-25-2009, 12:38 AM	#14
sugarpop Professor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the edge of the abyss Posts: 1,947	Same thing. Makes more sense than paying bonuses to people when the company is going down in flames...

02-25-2009, 08:53 AM	#15
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