Obama administration authorizes killing US citizen

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I don't think all conservatives are conservative due to religious beliefs either. In fact, most of the conservatives I know are what they are for financial gain rather than religious beliefs.

There is a lot of truth in that statement.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I don't think all conservatives are conservative due to religious beliefs either. In fact, most of the conservatives I know are what they are for financial gain rather than religious beliefs.

In the larger context of conservatism, that may be the case.

In the US, the conservative movement is dominated by those whose guiding principles are the sanctity of life, the sanctity of marriage, the sanctity of guns and the sanctity of Jesus Christ.

Any deviation from any of the above puts you at odds with the hard core American conservatives.

[spudcon]

Originally Posted by Redux

In the larger context of conservatism, that may be the case.

In the US, the conservative movement is dominated by those whose guiding principles are the sanctity of life, the sanctity of marriage, the sanctity of guns and the sanctity of Jesus Christ.

Any deviation from any of the above puts you at odds with the hard core American conservatives.

You forgot the sanctity of the constitution and the rule of law.

Originally Posted by spudcon

You forgot the sanctity of the constitution and the rule of law.

The rule of law says first trimester abortion is legal and Jesus Christ doesnt belong in the classroom and gays and lesbians have some level of civil rights.

[xoxoxoBruce]

What, no conservative Jews, muslims, Atheists?

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by Redux

In the larger context of conservatism, that may be the case.

In the US, the conservative movement is dominated by those whose guiding principles are the sanctity of life, the sanctity of marriage, the sanctity of guns and the sanctity of Jesus Christ.

Any deviation from any of the above puts you at odds with the hard core American conservatives.

Religion is not on the same level over here as it is in the US, which is why the whole god argument isn't very effective (and rarely used) in anything to do with politics here.

That being said though, our current opposition leader is quite a long way to the right and is quite religious. Who knows what will happen next year if his party wins.

[Aliantha]

I'm not positive, but i'm pretty sure HM meant that clearly your friend is not a collection of useless cells simply by the virtue of having a worthwhile life (or at least it seems that that was what you were alluding to spud).

[TheMercenary]

Well that leaves me out.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well that leaves me out.

Yep.

And, IMO, i think it is why the social conservatives who currently dominate the Republican party and the Tea Party advocates (fiscal conservatives/libertarians) will find it very difficult to co-exist under one banner....there is a fundamental clash of priorities.

[spudcon]

Originally Posted by Redux

Yep.

And, IMO, i think it is why the social conservatives who currently dominate the Republican party and the Tea Party advocates (fiscal conservatives/libertarians) will find it very difficult to co-exist under one banner....there is a fundamental clash of priorities.

You're right. Co-existance under one banner with conservatives and libertarians would be impossible. Different philosophies.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Tea Party advocates (fiscal conservatives/libertarians)

Your definition. Not the view of the three groups independently, Tea Party supporters, conservatives, libertarians...

I agree with DanaC, Friedman is great. He has a few kooky ideas but I like his style, and given many of the choices in the recent elections I might just vote for him over the other choices if I lived in Texas.

Here is an example.

The Texas Republican Party just adopted its platform for the 2010 elections....including re-criminalizing sodomy (despite a Supreme Court decision declaring the previous Texas sodomy law - up to 5 - 15 years in jail - unconstitutional), denying any legal rights to gay partners, and restoring organized prayer in school.

[Aliantha]

Remind me not to get too kinky in Texas next time I'm there!

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Remind me not to get too kinky in Texas next time I'm there!

Or vote for Kinky Friedman.

He is "not pro-life, and I'm not pro-choice. I'm pro-football" and "supports gay marriage. I believe they have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us."

[Aliantha]

He seems to be a bit all over the shop according to the bit of info about him on Wiki.