July 8, 2010: Fingernailed - Page 6

squirell nutkin · 07-14-2010, 07:58 PM

So there's no justice?

classicman · 07-14-2010, 08:21 PM

We should ask whip what the over/under is.

wolf · 07-15-2010, 12:38 PM

The only difference between Ms. Lohan and my own entitled, miserable, demanding drunks and junkies is the level of income.

I have a quote from PK Dick that I keep taped to the desk.

"Drug use is not a disease, it is a decision, much like the decision to step out in front of a moving. car."

The disease model has screwed up effective treatment for years ... "Oooh, cool, it's NOT my fault. It's my genes, it's my alcoholic dad, it's my spoiled and pampered upbringing." None of those things forced your arm to go up and down to your mouth.

And she needs a new shrink ... no responsible doctor should be prescribing benzos or amphetamines to someone who already has an addictions diagnosis. That's another thing I see far too often. Adderall handed out like candy to speedfreaks.

She's got a whole new career in front of her, anyway ... next season on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. I look forward to seeing her argue with Tom Sizemore around the pool.

Trilby · 07-15-2010, 02:08 PM

[quote=wolf;670813]None of those things forced your arm to go up and down to your mouth.[/wolf]

Yeah. The same to fucking fat people, too, who whine about how expensive fresh food is. NOBODY FUCKING FORCED THEM TO EAT AT McDonalds and Wendys and stuff chocolate in their pie holes, did they?? No body forced them to overeat like gluttons - fuck 'em! Let 'em all die of high trigylcerides and HTN, cancer and cholesterol!

Why FFS should insurance co. pay fucking MONEY to have their fucking stomachs stapled????

Right?

Bologna.

classicman · 07-15-2010, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

Bologna.

no thank you - Roast Beef or Turkey please

Shawnee123 · 07-15-2010, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

Yeah. The same to fucking fat people, too, who whine about how expensive fresh food is. NOBODY FUCKING FORCED THEM TO EAT AT McDonalds and Wendys and stuff chocolate in their pie holes, did they?? No body forced them to overeat like gluttons - fuck 'em! Let 'em all die of high trigylcerides and HTN, cancer and cholesterol!

Why FFS should insurance co. pay fucking MONEY to have their fucking stomachs stapled????

Right?

Bologna.

Why should people get free money (disability) because they're too fat to work? They'll just spend it all at McDonald's, they ain't got nuttin' else to do all day. We're enabling them!

Why does insurance cover ANYTHING that is the person's own fault? Does insurance deny coverage to a drunk driver who wrecks and is hurt? Does insurance deny coverage to giant asses? Do we deny vision insurance because we read too much? Do we deny dental insurance because someone chewed way too much Juicy Fruit? Do we deny rhinoplasty because some dumbass had his nose so far up people's asses it was deformed? No!

Because we live in a society.

Spexxvet · 07-19-2010, 02:10 PM

Do insurance companies pay to deliver babies? That was your decision!

classicman · 07-15-2010, 12:42 PM

Oh wolf. What the hell do you know about it?
Whats that? You've been working in this field for decades.. .. ..
<crickets chirping>

BigV · 07-20-2010, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman

Oh wolf. What the hell do you know about it?
--snip

Dat's some funny shit right there.

wolf · 07-15-2010, 12:50 PM

Yer funny.

Undertoad · 07-15-2010, 01:56 PM

We can figure this out.

Points that support the disease model:

Points that support the decision model:

Undertoad · 07-15-2010, 01:59 PM

disease:
Some races are immune to alcoholism because of different reactions it causes in them.

decision:
Anyone who successfully follows a lifelong abstinence policy will not be affected.

Shawnee123 · 07-15-2010, 02:05 PM

Wait, what? Are you trying to say that alcohol and drugs cause some kind of "chemical" reaction? The HELL you say! You've got some farfetched ideas young man. Now pull yourself up by your bootstraps and put that crack away, you cuckoo bird!

Undertoad · 07-15-2010, 02:25 PM

disease:
Simply stopping causes serious, negative, sometimes life-threatening physical reactions in almost all addicts.

decision:
There are people who simply decided to stop and therein did so successfully.

Trilby · 07-19-2010, 02:27 PM

spexx - quit being an idiot.

Midwives used to deliver babies until doctors (MALE doctors) saw dollar signs and drove them out of business. Now that malpractice is so high for Ob-gyns, they are willing to give the practice back to the midwives.

At any rate - there's no comparison between the issues.

07-14-2010, 07:58 PM	#1
squirell nutkin has a second hand user title Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: in a Nut House Posts: 2,017	So there's no justice? __________________ And now I'm finished posting.

07-14-2010, 08:21 PM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	We should ask whip what the over/under is. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

07-15-2010, 12:38 PM	#3
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	The only difference between Ms. Lohan and my own entitled, miserable, demanding drunks and junkies is the level of income. I have a quote from PK Dick that I keep taped to the desk. "Drug use is not a disease, it is a decision, much like the decision to step out in front of a moving. car." The disease model has screwed up effective treatment for years ... "Oooh, cool, it's NOT my fault. It's my genes, it's my alcoholic dad, it's my spoiled and pampered upbringing." None of those things forced your arm to go up and down to your mouth. And she needs a new shrink ... no responsible doctor should be prescribing benzos or amphetamines to someone who already has an addictions diagnosis. That's another thing I see far too often. Adderall handed out like candy to speedfreaks. She's got a whole new career in front of her, anyway ... next season on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. I look forward to seeing her argue with Tom Sizemore around the pool. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-15-2010, 02:08 PM	#4
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	[quote=wolf;670813]None of those things forced your arm to go up and down to your mouth.[/wolf] Yeah. The same to fucking fat people, too, who whine about how expensive fresh food is. NOBODY FUCKING FORCED THEM TO EAT AT McDonalds and Wendys and stuff chocolate in their pie holes, did they?? No body forced them to overeat like gluttons - fuck 'em! Let 'em all die of high trigylcerides and HTN, cancer and cholesterol! Why FFS should insurance co. pay fucking MONEY to have their fucking stomachs stapled???? Right? Bologna. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

07-19-2010, 02:10 PM	#7
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	Do insurance companies pay to deliver babies? That was your decision! __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

07-15-2010, 12:42 PM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Oh wolf. What the hell do you know about it? Whats that? You've been working in this field for decades.. .. .. <crickets chirping> __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

07-15-2010, 12:50 PM	#10
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Yer funny. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

07-15-2010, 01:56 PM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	We can figure this out. Points that support the disease model: Points that support the decision model:

07-15-2010, 01:59 PM	#12
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	disease: Some races are immune to alcoholism because of different reactions it causes in them. decision: Anyone who successfully follows a lifelong abstinence policy will not be affected.

07-15-2010, 02:05 PM	#13
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Wait, what? Are you trying to say that alcohol and drugs cause some kind of "chemical" reaction? The HELL you say! You've got some farfetched ideas young man. Now pull yourself up by your bootstraps and put that crack away, you cuckoo bird! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

07-15-2010, 02:25 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	disease: Simply stopping causes serious, negative, sometimes life-threatening physical reactions in almost all addicts. decision: There are people who simply decided to stop and therein did so successfully.

07-19-2010, 02:27 PM	#15
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	spexx - quit being an idiot. Midwives used to deliver babies until doctors (MALE doctors) saw dollar signs and drove them out of business. Now that malpractice is so high for Ob-gyns, they are willing to give the practice back to the midwives. At any rate - there's no comparison between the issues. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

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