"Yum" or "ahh"? ,your choice

[Radar]

I love how women try to tell a man how men think and whom we respect. It's hilarious.

I'm an authority on the subject. You are not. Women can have sex anytime they want. Men can not. Not even Brad Pitt can walk into a bar, snap his fingers, and have any woman in the bar. But even an average looking woman with no money can.

Jaguar is, as usual, completely full of shit.

I live right here on earth, and what I'm saying is a reality in this world right now. You're just blind to it.

[Tomas Rueda]

Wait a sec! what is your definition of sex? is it either:

1) the release of psychological sexual desires through any erotic action (i.e. sex, masturbation, etc.)

or

2) actual sex with a partner required. ?

[Radar]

Masturbation is to sex as a snack is to a meal. A snack can tide you over for a bit, but eventually you're going to want a meal. And even if you make a few meals out of putting a lot of snacks together, it's not nutritionally sound and won't really satisfy your urge to eat a real meal. For instance let's say you are stranded on an island and the only thing to eat is coconuts. Coconuts don't really have all the vitamins you need, or other nutrients, but they can stop you from feeling hungry temporarily. If you go long enough with just eating coconuts, you'll get sick and die though.

[jaguar]

Men have much more respect for women who don't confuse sex and love. If a guy can find a girl who likes to hang around, watch sports, and give an occasional BJ to him and his buddies with no emotional attachment, so much the better.

Women mistakenly think that men think less of women who have lots of sex without emotional attachment or commitment. We like them and respect them more than the other girls.

Just to clarify, that was the bit where the what-the-fuck-o-meter blew up. Yea like, on the most shallow of levels. A quick fuck. Respect? Huh?

I'm a man, I'm telling you and I'm not alone, here or in normal society. I respect (and go for) intelligent, creative, vivacious women who have enough respect for themselves to choose thier sexual partners entirely on their own terms. Certainly not some trash doing round-robin blowjobs while the football match is on.

If anyone isn't convinced radar isn't entirely disconnected from reality, check the implication in the below quote.

If you go long enough with just eating coconuts, you'll get sick and die though.

[Radar]

I'm a man, I'm telling you and I'm not alone, here or in normal society.

You're not a man. You're a pussy. And you aren't even in the same neighborhood as "normal society" so give it up.

You're a typical pussified wimp denying what's real because you want to play up the "sensitive guy" angle. Give it a rest. You are all that is wrong in the world.

If anyone isn't convinced radar isn't entirely disconnected from reality, check the implication in the below quote.

Do you deny that a diet of only coconuts would eventually lead to death? Ever heard of scurvy? rickets? or any number of other diseases that malnourished people get?

[jaguar]

*laughs. Ah! Gold. God you're like a bull shown red, I knew I'd get the 'you're not a man' line as soon as I wrote that. Cute, if predictable. Of course, anyone that wants more from a woman than hot dinner on the table when they get home from that oh-so-tiring-quit-bothering-me-to-do-anything-but-watch-tv-when-I-get-home 9-5 job, the house clean and blowjobs for all their buddies is a pussified wimp. I get it now.

Barefoot and pregnant, that's the motto of Real Men like radar. The 50s called, they want their social norm back.

Oh and before you fly off the handle, look up the work implication.

[Radar]

We're not talking about wives retard. We're talking about people trying to get laid. But of course you're above getting laid since you're the "I'm a sensitive man who genuinely cares about your feelings and I'll respect you in the morning because I genuinely care about you as a person (but I'm really lying to get laid)" kind of guy.

You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man. You were most likely raised by a single woman or had a very domineering mother.

I don't know of a single guy who wants them to be barefoot or pregnant. They want them with shoes on and taking birth control so as soon as they're done getting laid they can use those shoes to walk away and we'll never get a phone call asking for child support.

And don't worry, I don't "fly off the handle". My discussions are always logical, intelligent, and reasonable.

Everything I've said is true for the vast majority of people. Are there particular exceptions? Yes, but they are the exception not the rule and are therefore irrelevant to this discussion.

Young men want to get laid and have a good time without making some sort of emotional commitment. That's what we're talking about. Women can and often do have these kind of one night stands but don't talk about them for fear of being thought of as a "slut". But they don't realize that most men don't care if they're a slut, or would actually prefer it.

We're not talking about those trying to settle down. We're talking about those who want to get laid. Believe it or not, you can do one without the other.

And nobody on earth has yet proven that men gain anything by being married. (And don't be so stupid as to bring up a wealthy woman and a poor guy because that's almost never the case and we're talking about MOST cases, not exceptions)


THINGS A MAN CAN HAVE WITHOUT BEING MARRIED

Sex
Companionship
Children
Love
Houskeeping
Life Long Commitment
etc.

THINGS A MAN CAN ONLY HAVE BY BEING MARRIED

?


THINGS A MAN RISKS BY BEING MARRIED (if things don't work out)

Losing half of everything he's ever earned before he even met her
Paying vaginamony through the nose for years
Losing his house
Credit messed up

[jinx]

Why did you get married Radar? And how is your relationship with your mother, if I may ask?

[jaguar]

You're really aren't the brightest candle on the cake are you.

If, and lets face it, in your case, it's a pretty big one - you read what I said, properly, there is nothing in there (phew ) that precludes the wonderful one night stand, fuck buddies or anything else for that matter. But hey, it was a big if, you couldn't even follow the word implication.

Not really sure where marriage came into the discussion either, I've got no intentions of going anywhere near it. Out of question, considering you're sour as verjuice about the whole institution, why did you get married for a second time?

My discussions are always logical, intelligent, and reasonable.
You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man.

Ok, now we've cleared that up. You know you've said and made up some pretty amusing stuff over time but that was the best in-one-post juxtoposition I've seen yet. Every time your rants start looking a tad hackneyed (and more than a tad impuissant) you manage to pull another rabbit out of the hat.

Sorry to everyone else for turning an otherwise perfectly good thread into another forum for my ongoing spat with Radar, even if it is occasionally rather amusing.

[jaguar]

And how is your relationship with your mother, if I may ask?

Freud is in the house

[Clodfobble]

Radar, you put "children" under "Things a Man Can Have Without Being Married."

While this is biologically true, reality would dictate that you put "Children he gets to see every day and doesn't have to pay child support for" under "Things a Man Can Only Have By Being Married."

Is that a reasonable answer to your question (what do men get out of marriage?), or do you deny that some men want to have children in the non-visitation sense?

[Radar]

Why did you get married Radar? And how is your relationship with your mother, if I may ask?

Because I love this woman, I'm ready to settle down, and because there was no other way to bring her to America. If there were, I'd have done it.

And the relationship with the mother is fine.

Sorry to everyone else for turning an otherwise perfectly good thread into another forum for my ongoing spat with Radar, even if it is occasionally rather amusing.

You could fuck up a wet dream. You can't help yourself. You've got to come in and screw up decent discussions with your ignorance, and bitterness. You are an idiot. I seriously mean that. You are so stupid, you're on the virge of competing in the special olympics.

My assessment of you... "You are a pussy. You're a pansy assed little queer who forgot how to be a man." is accurate, logical, intelligent, and reasonable. You've proven yourself to be all of the above and then some.

While this is biologically true, reality would dictate that you put "Children he gets to see every day and doesn't have to pay child support for" under "Things a Man Can Only Have By Being Married."

That's wholly inaccurate.

A man can have children he gets to see everyday and doesn't pay child support for even without being married. He can have a child with his girlfriend who happens to live with him and see his child everyday. And he can even have custody of that child if they split up. A man is every bit as loving, caring, and able to care for a child as a woman.

[DanaC]

I think RADAR is originally from Gor

[Radar]

I like the militant atheist thing. My friend has a bumper sticker that says, "Militant Agnostic - I don't know and neither do you!"

[Clodfobble]

A man can have children he gets to see everyday and doesn't pay child support for even without being married. He can have a child with his girlfriend who happens to live with him and see his child everyday. And he can even have custody of that child if they split up. A man is every bit as loving, caring, and able to care for a child as a woman.

Believe me, I am well aware that a man is more than capable of caring for a child. But in most courts, unless the mother is cooperating, or shown to have a criminal record, the man will not get custody. Shall we say it happens about as often as a man walks into a bar and immediately finds someone willing to have sex with him?

I will grant you that if his girlfriend is willing to simply live with him and have children, it is possible. But you know that's not the norm, otherwise you wouldn't be bitching about women so much. And the girlfriend has total control in that situation--he risks having to pay child support and never see the kid again should she choose to leave, just as much as the married man risks losing half of everything and paying alimony the rest of his life.