1/26/2005: Hindu swastika

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz

I dont dispute that. but i dont believe that being armed would make any difference to our survival.

I'll never use a gun on a human, if i was going to kill someone then they must deserve it, so then id rather beat then to death with a crow bar then just shoot them.

We are all ready to be savage in some cause.

A pistol for the bedroom,
A shotgun over the door,
A 30-06 for reaching out;
You don't need any more.

A wop refers(slang) to an Italian.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz

I dont dispute that. but i dont believe that being armed would make any difference to our survival.

Your survival, perhaps.

I'll never use a gun on a human, if i was going to kill someone then they must deserve it, so then id rather beat then to death with a crow bar then just shoot them.

I've heard other antigunners say stuff like this ... if you can't handle killing someone by shooting them, even in defense of your own life, you sure as shit wouldn't be able to beat them to death with a crowbar, even if you had the physical strength to do it.

It takes a lot longer than it looks like in the movies. Or a lucky hit. or 12.

[Sun_Sparkz]

whats a WOP?

[404Error]

I believe it stands for 'WithOut Papers' but it's used as an offensive terms for a person of Italian descent.

[wolf]

Wop:Italian::Mick:Irishman

[mrnoodle]

especially when the first one misses by a little. Then you have a howling terrorist on your hands, and he won't hold still for the coup de grace. but he's still reaching for a gun, so you gotta do it despite his tears and yelling, or you get shot.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*crunch*


you have a stronger stomach than me. I'd rather end the discussion without all the histrionics.

[wolf]

If someone gets close enough to me to NEED being bashed in the head with a crowbar, I've done something wrong.

[lookout123]

i think a famous scene from Indiana Jones sums this conversation up well.

Bad guy stands in place demonstrating his mad skills with his sword. the crowd oohs and ahs. Harrison Ford puts a bullet in him and goes back to what he was doing.

'nuff said.

[footfootfoot]

Originally Posted by lookout123

i think a famous scene from Indiana Jones sums this conversation up well.

Bad guy stands in place demonstrating his mad skills with his sword. the crowd oohs and ahs. Harrison Ford puts a bullet in him and goes back to what he was doing.

'nuff said.

Almost 'nuff.
I know I'm 'sposed to be in the darkroom redoing all those f*ing prints, but what the hey?

It reminds ME of an old cheech wizard strip when one of Cheech's nemesises (nemesii?) sends an oriental assasin after him. (think circa Bruce Lee)

"LO! Watch me spling about like quicktiger! You not so fast to avoid upcoming Gook devastation!"

BLAM! (shotgun blast)

"Welcome to the west gook."

NOW 'nuff said.

[Sun_Sparkz]

ok let me ask you this then:

if guns were JUST invented.. and nobody else had them. ie: you wouldnt have to have one to defend yourself against someone else who had one.

Would agree with anti gun concepts then?

(hunting animals not included, i'm talking about protection)

[wolf]

No

[Troubleshooter]

Self-defense isn't about fairness or equality. As with most things it is about trumping the other guy.

If he has a stick and I have a gun, he may not have have to die if he's smart.

If he has a stick and I have a stick, we may fight or not depending on if he thinks it would be a fair fight or not.

If he has a stick and I don't, he gets my stuff.

So, no, it's not about morality, it's about survival.

[russotto]

Sam Colt's marketing slogan ("Equalizer") still holds. Pretty much any pre-firearm weapon, victory in a fight with equal weapons goes to the strong.

With guns, particularly handguns, the advantages -- to the strong, to the swift, and even to the well-trained -- are much reduced. Though all of those still help.

[BigV]

Equalizer, my ass. Equal is rock paper scissors. "Superior-izer" is what is intended to be conveyed. But the fig leaf of only striving to "equalize" the potential situation hides the fear of weakness.

It's just freakin stuff. You can get more stuff, but lose life, game over. I reckon that having surrendered faith and confidence to fear and doubt, that stuff is the next best thing to cling to.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by BigV

Equalizer, my ass. Equal is rock paper scissors. "Superior-izer" is what is intended to be conveyed. But the fig leaf of only striving to "equalize" the potential situation hides the fear of weakness.

It's just freakin stuff. You can get more stuff, but lose life, game over. I reckon that having surrendered faith and confidence to fear and doubt, that stuff is the next best thing to cling to.

At my, admittedly low, socioeconomic level, stuff is directly related to how much time I have to devote to reacquiring said stuff. Someone taking my stuff is stealing my time, and thus a portion of my life.

It is not weakness to want to maintain equitability of value of my stuff. I will not surrender the fruit of my time and efforts to some monkey who wants a shortcut through life.

If he wants stuff he can get a fucking job, get declared crazy or handicapped to draw a check or he can get ventilated.