Armed America - Page 7

glatt · 02-05-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

move to a nation not built on the principle of the second amendment. Again, simple.

In other words: America, love it or leave it.

How is that the position of someone who is very moderate?

Flint · 02-05-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

How is that the position of someone who is very moderate?

>>>>>>> How is your face not a getting punched-the-hell-off?

glatt · 02-05-2007, 03:17 PM

Because my new LCD monitor at work is specially designed to be so thin, there is no room inside to hide the little people who would normally punch me in the face.

02-05-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

In other words: America, love it or leave it.

How is that the position of someone who is very moderate?

I am moderate when it comes to gun possession. I have no issue with three day background checks (no longer), I do not feel that people should be allowed to own military grade explosives, I have no issue with people being allowed to bring guns into government buildings, no violent felons owning guns.
The Constitution IS America, yes, if you do not want to be around freedom, you should not be in this country. Just like those who feel that there should be a limit to freedom of speech are not a good fit for living in this nation.
I could care less if they are here. I just think they are going to be uncomfortable.

Spexxvet · 02-05-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

...Just like those who feel that there should be a limit to freedom of speech are not a good fit for living in this nation.
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Just like those people who feel that there should be a limit to a person's freedom to own slaves, or a person's freedom to limit a woman's right to vote. The constitution changes with the times. Why isn't it time to be civilized and change gun rights? I'm not endorsing limiting all guns, just the ones predominntly used in crimes.

02-05-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Just like those people who feel that there should be a limit to a person's freedom to own slaves, or a person's freedom to limit a woman's right to vote. The constitution changes with the times. Why isn't it time to be civilized and change gun rights? I'm not endorsing limiting all guns, just the ones predominntly used in crimes.

Illegal ones, mostly shotguns and revolvers? That is really going to bum-out all the trap shooters out there. It is a very popular hobby.

So, we stop making all shotguns and .38 revolvers, criminals are going to go "damn, we can't use our favorites any more... guess we'll just stop shooting now", is that it?

Keep in mind, making guns illegal will do nothing, people will still make them. Especially patriots.

MaggieL · 02-05-2007, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Why isn't it time to be civilized and change gun rights?

Because arbitrarily abrogating people's right to defend themselves isn't "civilized", and to call it that is begging the question.

Spexxvet · 02-05-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

I take no responsibility for anyone else's posts.
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And yet you object to my being insulting (which I don't think I was), but not to someone who agrees with your point's being insulting. That's real moderate.

Clodfobble · 02-05-2007, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieL

Because arbitrarily abrogating people's right to defend themselves isn't "civilized", and to call it that is begging the question.

Speaking of, I saw this the other day, and it reminded me of you:

MaggieL · 02-05-2007, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Speaking of, I saw this the other day, and it reminded me of you:

Misusing "begging the question" reminds me of grocer's apostrophes, "open all nite" signs, being unable to correctly use "affect" and "effect" or "loose" and "lose", or writing things like "for all intensive purposes".

That a usage is common doesn't make it correct. Claims that "the language is dynamic" are used too often to cover frank ignorance.

That some twit heard the phrase "begging the question" and assumed incorrectly that he knew what it meant doesn't actually create a new meaning identical with "raising the question".

Somehow I doubt we'd be better off using "petitio principii" in place of "begging the question".

Aliantha · 02-05-2007, 07:55 PM

And your point is?

Aliantha · 02-05-2007, 07:56 PM

ditto

MaggieL · 02-05-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

ditto

If you're going to agree with or dispute something, you'd probably better quote it. Otherwise we just see these standalone responses whose referents are unclear.

Aliantha · 02-05-2007, 08:20 PM

I was refering to you Maggie as you well know, unless you really are that obtuse.

MaggieL · 02-05-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I was refering to you Maggie as you well know, unless you really are that obtuse.

With "ditto"? Which of my postings?

I'm not being obtuse, you're being obscure. When two people are reading and posting at once, the order in which posts appear can be confusing.

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02-05-2007, 07:56 PM	#12
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	ditto __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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