Bridge Collapse

[xoxoxoBruce]

Not to worry......

[warch]

Bruce- I have to note that I love the way you used the word "purchase".

Pierce- Hey Mpls! Glad to meet you not as a featured new item with unfortunate head shot.

The rebuild is on the fast track. I think most people just want it on the SAFE track. Contractor bids are due in tomorrow. Yikes. I think its politicians reacting to the Katrina lag.

Navy is here to crank the junk up. The staging area is slick. Proof that some locals were making good on the post 9/11 training and funds. The city park has been turned into parking, service tents, boat docking, trailers of supplies. Cordoned off, you see park, cities, U, and state cops, contractors and other civilians, guard, and now navy working in concert.

[piercehawkeye45]

Originally Posted by warch

Pierce- Hey Mpls! Glad to meet you not as a featured new item with unfortunate head shot.

Thanks, I'm glad you're okay as well.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

DanaC, I read tw's posts. I stand by my contentions -- at best, the man's a neurotic: emotionally dysfunctional. At worst, there is some degree of sociopathy there -- also an emotional dysfunction, among other things.

His complete want of people skills, to a degree that does suggest counseling may be appropriate, is demonstrated in his manner of posting -- for one thing, this man cannot persuade, and he turns unpleasant very swiftly when he fails at it. Contrast his manner, if you're in a researching mood, with mine.

And incidentally, if you think anything you've said disqualifies tw from the world of politics then you are a fool.

I'm not that foolish: it's tw's manner that disqualifies him from the world of politics. I merely observed that this is so, if you'd kindly go back and reread.

[DanaC]

His complete want of people skills, to a degree that does suggest counseling may be appropriate, is demonstrated in his manner of posting -- for one thing, this man cannot persuade, and he turns unpleasant very swiftly when he fails at it. Contrast his manner, if you're in a researching mood, with mine.

a) you're both fucking mentalists if you ask me.
and

b) none of what you say in any way suggests he is sociopathic, merely that his posts display characteristsics you dislike.

I'm not that foolish: it's tw's manner that disqualifies him from the world of politics. I merely observed that this is so, if you'd kindly go back and reread.

Again, if you think anything about tw's manner in any way disqualifies him from politics you are a fool.

[Aliantha]

there are a lot of politicians who are a bit lacking in social skills if you ask me.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

there are a lot of politicians who are a bit lacking in social skills if you ask me.

lol

Of all the politicians I've worked for/with, I'd have to say that precious few have good personal social skills.

[DanaC]

I know of several whose personal skills would, in a sane world preclude them from ever having a career public service...ours is not a sane world.

[tw]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I know of several whose personal skills would, in a sane world preclude them from ever having a career public service...ours is not a sane world.

I have no skill at lying or implying. I say things bluntly and honestly. I also hold little respect for ideas that arrive without the whys and numbers. When such supporting facts are missing, unfortunately, the messenger might take personal insult rather than grasp what is important - those missing supporting facts and numbers. Many people also associate speculative opinions as if it were their soul. It's not. It’s only a fact or opinion with a life of its own.

Another problem. Many don't want to be told the truth. We mostly want to hear only what we want to hear. Nobody can get elected being honest. It is why, for example, the White House could so easily destroy realities about global warming with outright lawyer rewritten lies. We often don't want to hear honest reality. So we elect lying politicians. Of course. And then blame politicians for being liars.

Why do politicians spin? More important is getting elected. Truth is only a secondary problem. Getting them to like me: that is more important to a politician. That just is not me. I never claimed to be politically correct. I would rather be liked for being honest rather than lying. But politically correct rather than honest is exactly what many want. I appreciate their point when they say, "We just cannot say that." But to lie is actually painful to me.

I just have no idea how, for example, Urbane Guerrilla can live with himself. His routine 'rewriting of history' even in the first thread he participated in is to me amazing. I could not live with myself lying that often every day.

What makes me unique? More than anything else - I have a massive contempt for liars and for those who always know only using wild speculation or a political agenda - other examples of lying.

Yes, I could never be a politician. A politician puts human emotion ahead of honesty. Lying is too much part of the job.

[xoxoxoBruce]

See, I told you he could make a rational, succinct, post.

[Aliantha]

Oh god, don't get me started on public servants. lol

[Clodfobble]

If I understand correctly, "Nextel" users may make walkie-talkie style calls to other Nextel users, but must access the "Sprint" network if they want to make normal cell phone calls to other brands of cell phone. If the article is only referring to the Nextel network being open, that would make sense: around here, Nextel is almost exclusively business-based. Couriers, and other traveling workers, use them to call the home office while they are out in the field. Most people wouldn't be calling coworkers when there is a catastrophe, they'd be trying to call friends and family, which may mean they were counted in Sprint's network problems instead.

[DanaC]

es, I could never be a politician. A politician puts human emotion ahead of honesty. Lying is too much part of the job.

Well. I didn't say you'd be a good, or a bad politician. Merely pointed out to UG that his assertion that you have no interpersonal skills and therefore wuold never make a politician, was false. First off, he cannot tell from forum posts what your interpersonal skills might be in the real world, and secondly, politicians are people and there are those with and those without those interpersonal skills:P

On a slight tangent from where this was heading: I do slightly resent your characterisation of polticians. Not all politicians lie routinely, some are actually very decent people. I've met local and national politicians who work hard and are dedicated to the communities they serve. I've also met some absolute vipers.

[bluecuracao]

You're right, Dana. For the most part, politicians want to do right by the people they represent (good social skills or not).

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

You're right, Dana. For the most part, politicians want to do right by the people they represent (good social skills or not).

I think you're right because it's the best way to cultivate the loyalty and adoration of their constituents.
The loyalty for obvious job security.... the adoration for their egos, that people who wish to be in the spotlight, seem to have in abundance.