6/24/2002: Another Palestinian child - Page 7

Undertoad · 06-30-2002, 10:13 AM

...And I believe that tax was like 1%.

jaguar · 06-30-2002, 07:30 PM

Bet a few kids were killed too, just noone was taking photos. Media really has revolutinaised war.

06-30-2002, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by jaguar
Bet a few kids were killed too, just noone was taking photos. Media really has revolutinaised war.

No British kids.

jaguar · 07-01-2002, 12:48 AM

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/6/29/165832/336

a must read for this discussion. .

warch · 07-01-2002, 02:15 PM

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it's my belief that Arafat should lead his people, like Gandhi or MLK Jr., to a peaceful
protest of Israeli occupation.

What is it about the Palestinian situation that makes the emergence of a leader who would profess non violence, or I dare say...love, seem like such an impossibility? Targeting conscious would be an effective strategy, as it has proven - with a better record than terrorism. Is it the "shame culture" thing, machismo, or are things too far gone with the mental illness of rabid revenge? Is it tw's suggestion that more death is needed to wake moderates? What will shake consciousness to stop? non violence might . Does nonviolence as a strategy needs to gain some status as "hardball"?

Nic Name · 07-01-2002, 02:25 PM

The last guy from the region who honestly preached non-violence got crucified.

... or, assassinated, if you want to count Rabin.

07-01-2002, 02:59 PM

Arafat has said that he would rather be made a martyr than give in to Israel...

regardless, it's the <b>right</b> thing to do - lead the people whom you've been elected to lead. If you can't do it, step down.

Urbane Guerrilla · 07-08-2002, 08:39 PM

The Palestinian bombing campaign is superbly designed to do one thing, and one thing only: it prevents the growth or development of any sympathy for the Palestinians whatsoever.

What the Palestinians, or certain abscess-brains among them, must do is to stop giving the rest of the world the idea that genocide, either of the Palestinians or of the Israelis, might be a good solution to this chronic fever of the body politic. It's a lousy idea, but one which nonetheless has some fed-up people imagining that a final solution is the only solution.

Certain Arab-world publications have pushed for genocide upon Israel. To those people, I would say, "Do not push for genocide; that has a way of coming back to kill you, too."

06-30-2002, 07:30 PM	#92
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Bet a few kids were killed too, just noone was taking photos. Media really has revolutinaised war. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-01-2002, 12:48 AM	#94
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2002/6/29/165832/336 a must read for this discussion. . __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

07-08-2002, 08:39 PM	#98
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Palestinian hatred training The Palestinian bombing campaign is superbly designed to do one thing, and one thing only: it prevents the growth or development of any sympathy for the Palestinians whatsoever. What the Palestinians, or certain abscess-brains among them, must do is to stop giving the rest of the world the idea that genocide, either of the Palestinians or of the Israelis, might be a good solution to this chronic fever of the body politic. It's a lousy idea, but one which nonetheless has some fed-up people imagining that a final solution is the only solution. Certain Arab-world publications have pushed for genocide upon Israel. To those people, I would say, "Do not push for genocide; that has a way of coming back to kill you, too." __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

06-30-2002, 10:13 AM	#91
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	...And I believe that tax was like 1%.

07-01-2002, 02:25 PM	#96
Nic Name retired Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,930	The last guy from the region who honestly preached non-violence got crucified. ... or, assassinated, if you want to count Rabin.

07-01-2002, 02:59 PM	#97
dave Guest Posts: n/a	Arafat has said that he would rather be made a martyr than give in to Israel... regardless, it's the <b>right</b> thing to do - lead the people whom you've been elected to lead. If you can't do it, step down.

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