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DanaC · 02-09-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiki

I guess some dumb bitch in California popping out a litter is easier to get outraged about... certainly more Jerry-Springer.

First off, I think that's a vile thing to say. A bitch popping out a litter?

My only problem with it is from a medical ethics point of view. Her choices are her choices, but a doctor who should know better chose to act in a way that risked his patient's health unnecessarily, and which has been widely condemned by his professional peers. I have a similar problem with surgeons agreeing to carry out multiple plastic surgery operations on someone with extreme body dysmorphia.

This young woman may well want a big family. Nothing wrong, or abnormal about that. But it's also possible she is locked into the baby-hood part of mothering; or is fulfilling some great need that can't really be fulfilled. When people go to extremes in their choices, it's sometimes worth asking the question is this more than just normal desire, or has it broadened out into something pathological in nature?

I don't know, but I don't get the impression that this woman was given much counselling. If I was the medical practitioner, I'd have alarm bells ringing in my ears and would want to satisfy my conscience that I was not dealing with someone vulnerable.

TheMercenary · 02-09-2009, 05:29 PM

Looks like the state medical board is looking into it.

Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the matter to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care" for implanting so many embryos.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=8

DanaC · 02-09-2009, 05:36 PM

But Tiki's right. What peaks our collective attention first is the girl with all the babies. Misfits make for much better rag-fodder than medical malpractice.

TheMercenary · 02-09-2009, 05:44 PM

I am more concerned with the babies at this point. Medical malpractice, if there was any, is after the fact and can be taken care of through normal channels. On the other hand, who is going to care for all these kids. This afternoon they interviewed the grandmother and had film of the inside of the house from BEFORE these births and the place was an absolute mess {sorry to any of those in my house is a mess thread}, but to have to care for so many kids you really have to be organized. I can't imagine 6 and now more than 6. The mother has claimed bankruptcy, basically has no job, no income, and is supported by her mother. This case begs for someone from the state to come in and snatch these kids away. I bet that will be the end result. And yes folks, you will all be stuck with their bill, well all of you who live in California anyway.

Trilby · 02-09-2009, 06:07 PM

I saw an interview with mommy on tonights news----does anyone else think she's had a nose job and DEFINITELY her lips blown up with fat? She's like a very poor man's Angelina Wanna-Be IMHO.

ETA People Mag says she collected 168,000 in disabililty payments (back injury) and then, as she was leaving a doc appointment FOR said back injury she was rear-ended and sued for worker's comp (saying accident wouldn't have happened to her if she hadn't had to have treatment for original comp injury)

She also has a degree in child psych or similar and is planning on passing herself off as a child-care specialist. Hokay.

awalshe09 · 02-09-2009, 07:09 PM

I have to agree! The doctor should be questioned! I think that this woman is unstable. Who in their right mind wants 14 children? It's dangerous to the babies and who will pay for the medical attention they will/and/or do need! Oh, I guess the TV sponsors she has been interviewing. She, reportedly, she sold pictures of the babies to the highest bidder! Perhaps she saw that reality show with the sextuplets and figured that it was a good way to make money. Not far off the puppy mill scenario. I could go on and on, but I'll stop here. Shameful.

Cheers
Ladies
_______________

Shawnee123 · 02-09-2009, 07:24 PM

Yep...lips blown for sure.

Paraphrase from the news: money isn't important...it's just paper. All that matters is the children.

Huh? What are you going to feed them...platitudes?

DanaC · 02-09-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

Huh? What are you going to feed them...platitudes?

I'm guessing babies?

Trilby · 02-09-2009, 08:22 PM

If we feed babies babies, won't we get mad baby disease?

Aliantha · 02-09-2009, 08:24 PM

I'm with OC on this one. You can't force someone to abort their babies just as you can't force someone to keep them.

It doesn't mean I can't think she's made a bad decision though, but who knows. Maybe there's more corporations she can sue to support her family.

monster · 02-09-2009, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiki

Why do people care about this kind of shit? Jesus fuck. And get all het up about it too. Want to get het up about something, maybe consider oil flares and Shell-funded genocide in Nigeria.

I guess some dumb bitch in California popping out a litter is easier to get outraged about... certainly more Jerry-Springer.

Maybe we get het up about that too. We just would discuss it in a different thread. You could start one, if it's not already under discussion

classicman · 02-09-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am more concerned with the babies at this point.
...who is going to care for all these kids. This case begs for someone from the state to come in and snatch these kids away

That is probably in the best interest of these children. Very sad.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The mother has claimed bankruptcy, basically has no job, no income, and is supported by her mother. . I bet that will be the end result. And yes folks, you will all be stuck with their bill, well all of you who live in California anyway.

sar/ Nah, I'm sure there is some money in the stimulus plan for her. /casm

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

I'm with OC on this one. You can't force someone to abort their babies just as you can't force someone to keep them.

It isn't a question of aborting them, she shouldn't have had them in the first place. She cannot care for them and has no money nor job to support them. This is like an extreme example of welfare fraud.
The working taxpayers will have to support them. Can you imagine
the childcare costs? What job can she get to cover that and then pay her bills and all on top of that?

Aliantha · 02-09-2009, 09:44 PM

There are a lot of other women and men out there on welfare with multiple children. Maybe not as extreme as this, but never the less, they're there.

You still can't force someone not to have a child, particularly if they're already pregnant.

What happens once the child is born is up to the parent to decide on. If there are systems in place in her society which will provide for the child then lucky for her. If there aren't, then she'd better get off her arse.

I doubt tax payers are going to have to spend much on this one though. She'll be milking it with the media for all it's worth, right throughout their lives.

TheMercenary · 02-09-2009, 09:45 PM

I vote for a court ordered tubal ligation.

Aliantha · 02-09-2009, 09:46 PM

Unless you're on the jury, I don't think you get a vote.

02-09-2009, 05:29 PM	#92
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Looks like the state medical board is looking into it. Without identifying the doctor, the Medical Board of California said last week it was looking into the matter to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care" for implanting so many embryos. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...cle=1&catnum=8 __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-09-2009, 05:44 PM	#94
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I am more concerned with the babies at this point. Medical malpractice, if there was any, is after the fact and can be taken care of through normal channels. On the other hand, who is going to care for all these kids. This afternoon they interviewed the grandmother and had film of the inside of the house from BEFORE these births and the place was an absolute mess {sorry to any of those in my house is a mess thread}, but to have to care for so many kids you really have to be organized. I can't imagine 6 and now more than 6. The mother has claimed bankruptcy, basically has no job, no income, and is supported by her mother. This case begs for someone from the state to come in and snatch these kids away. I bet that will be the end result. And yes folks, you will all be stuck with their bill, well all of you who live in California anyway. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-09-2009, 06:07 PM	#95
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I saw an interview with mommy on tonights news----does anyone else think she's had a nose job and DEFINITELY her lips blown up with fat? She's like a very poor man's Angelina Wanna-Be IMHO. ETA People Mag says she collected 168,000 in disabililty payments (back injury) and then, as she was leaving a doc appointment FOR said back injury she was rear-ended and sued for worker's comp (saying accident wouldn't have happened to her if she hadn't had to have treatment for original comp injury) She also has a degree in child psych or similar and is planning on passing herself off as a child-care specialist. Hokay. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum Last edited by Trilby; 02-09-2009 at 06:34 PM.

02-09-2009, 07:24 PM	#97
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Yep...lips blown for sure. Paraphrase from the news: money isn't important...it's just paper. All that matters is the children. Huh? What are you going to feed them...platitudes? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

02-09-2009, 08:22 PM	#99
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	If we feed babies babies, won't we get mad baby disease? __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

02-09-2009, 05:36 PM	#93
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	But Tiki's right. What peaks our collective attention first is the girl with all the babies. Misfits make for much better rag-fodder than medical malpractice.

02-09-2009, 07:09 PM	#96
awalshe09 Kinda New Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1	I have to agree! The doctor should be questioned! I think that this woman is unstable. Who in their right mind wants 14 children? It's dangerous to the babies and who will pay for the medical attention they will/and/or do need! Oh, I guess the TV sponsors she has been interviewing. She, reportedly, she sold pictures of the babies to the highest bidder! Perhaps she saw that reality show with the sextuplets and figured that it was a good way to make money. Not far off the puppy mill scenario. I could go on and on, but I'll stop here. Shameful. Cheers Ladies _______________

02-09-2009, 08:24 PM	#100
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I'm with OC on this one. You can't force someone to abort their babies just as you can't force someone to keep them. It doesn't mean I can't think she's made a bad decision though, but who knows. Maybe there's more corporations she can sue to support her family. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-09-2009, 09:44 PM	#103
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	There are a lot of other women and men out there on welfare with multiple children. Maybe not as extreme as this, but never the less, they're there. You still can't force someone not to have a child, particularly if they're already pregnant. What happens once the child is born is up to the parent to decide on. If there are systems in place in her society which will provide for the child then lucky for her. If there aren't, then she'd better get off her arse. I doubt tax payers are going to have to spend much on this one though. She'll be milking it with the media for all it's worth, right throughout their lives. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-09-2009, 09:45 PM	#104
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	I vote for a court ordered tubal ligation. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-09-2009, 09:46 PM	#105
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Unless you're on the jury, I don't think you get a vote. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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