Let's Get Rid of the Politics Forum - Page 7

bluecuracao · 03-02-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pie

Poo flinging isn't struggle. It's merely poo flinging. It does not advance any cause, change any opinions, or do the world an iota of good.

Now that's quotable quote...thanks Pie!

tw · 03-03-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Have either of you ever used the ignore button? It might be a good idea to give it a go.

I think poorly of that function and do not need it. His constant personal attacks do not bother me personally. I expect extremists to do that when challenged because of their nature – including identifying me by name and address to make me a public target for extremists. Why did he work so long and hard to discover that information? Extremism is driven by hate (or maybe the other way around).

Extremists throughout history have done same to undermine whole societies. Hitler defined it important to seize power: disparage the bourgeoisies and intelligencia. Then the only people left can tell everyone how to think.

Do I think he will undermine America? Of course not and that is not what I said. People such as he should be overtly challenged because extremists in numbers are a primary reason for wars, massacres. the Spanish Inquisition, intolerance, pedophilia that even the Catholic Church has all but encouraged, terrorism, torture, and even something so stupid as "We do not talk to our enemies".

You might notice, he is now appearing, often immediately, in any discussion I participate in. If his apology was truly meaningful, then he would not be posting in threads that he has nothing useful to contribute. Especially in technical threads where he obviously could not contribute. Defined are actions encouraged by Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh.

However it has been a while since I have heard that Hilary is evil.

We are not talking about poo. Those were personal threats that took significant time (and maybe money) to execute. He did so in a pre-meditated manner.

sexobon · 03-03-2010, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

... I expect extremists to do that when challenged because of their nature – including identifying me by name and address to make me a public target for extremists. ...

... People such as he should be overtly challenged ...

We are not talking about poo. Those were personal threats that took significant time (and maybe money) to execute. He did so in a pre-meditated manner.

TW, the reliability of information is determined by both the accuracy of the information and verification of the source. There's even a commonly used alpha-numeric scale to rate the two components. It ranges from an accurate source of well established identity (A-1) to an inaccurate anonymous source (F-6). It's entirely possible to get good information from an anonymous source; or, bogus information from a well known source. An anonymous source of accurate information isn't easily discarded; however, it is always suspect as it may be a prelude to eventual deception since no one knows who the source is and can't verify where that person's sympathies lie by other means. You fall into that category. Given your prolific posting in certain forums, I find that ANYONE's attempt to further identify you does not constitute untoward behavior. That's the risk you accepted when you admonished "People such as he should be overtly challenged" [bold mine].

I concur that using the ignore feature is inappropriate in this instance. Please do continue to talk to your opponents here: "Keep your friends close: keep your enemies closer."

lookout123 · 03-03-2010, 08:44 AM

that's just emotional extremist talk. why are you so anti-american?

Happy Monkey · 03-03-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

Given your prolific posting in certain forums, I find that ANYONE's attempt to further identify you does not constitute untoward behavior.

I disagree. Seeking out unoffered personal details of a forum poster is creepy, and using those details to draw attention to the fact that you know them is threatening and stalkerish.

Pie · 03-03-2010, 10:10 AM

As far as I am concerned, the less I know about tw, the better.

Ignorance is bliss.

Shawnee123 · 03-03-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I disagree. Seeking out unoffered personal details of a forum poster is creepy, and using those details to draw attention to the fact that you know them is threatening and stalkerish.

Yes it is. It should be frowned upon, if not be an outright banning offense. I don't care how cool it is to hate on tw, tolerance of that kind of crap is why I have shut off my give-a-shit-about-this-place valve.

It's just not as cute as you might think it is. And yes, I mean some of you with your cute little remarks, only made if it's in the popular realm.

glatt · 03-03-2010, 10:17 AM

I'm curious about tw and what his story is. But I agree with Happy Monkey that trying to expose someone who wishes to remain anonymous is really a pretty shitty thing to do. There are many people on the Cellar who wish to remain anonymous to the search engines and to other specific people in their real lives. They may PM each other with their real names, friend each other on facebook, or even get together in real life, but they try to be anonymous to the world when they post here. It's something that should be respected.

classicman · 03-03-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

It's something that should be respected.

To virtually every extent of your post, I agree, but . . .
How would you feel if he called your wife a "gonorrhea dripping whore"?

Pie · 03-03-2010, 10:52 AM

I would laugh.

Oh noes! Someone's saying baaad things on teh Interwebz!

Shawnee123 · 03-03-2010, 10:54 AM

People with an ounce of character do not try to fuck up someone's life because they made them mad. It's petty and childish...and in some cases very very dangerous. Call him all the names you want, call him a cunt with his panties in a wad, call him anything...but I know how you'd feel if we outed your identity.

I, however, as hateful as you may think me, would not consider doing such a low-handed thing. These are the kinds of behaviors that show what you really stand for (not much) and what kind of person you really are (leaving that one alone.)

classicman · 03-03-2010, 11:03 AM

thanks Shaw - I appreciate that.

glatt · 03-03-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

How would you feel if he called your wife a "gonorrhea dripping whore"?

I wouldn't want such ugliness directed at me or my family, but at the same time, it's so preposterous as to be laughable. I wouldn't be hurt by such an over the top comment. I know my wife is not such a person, so some dude on the internet saying it really just shows what kind of person they are. It has no reflection on me. Or my wife. Also, anyone who says that is clearly trying to get a rise out of me, and I wouldn't fall for it.

Shawnee123 · 03-03-2010, 11:16 AM

Think about it. When you first changed your username, you were repeatedly making sure no one associated classicman with (former user name). When Shel called you by your first name, you asked that he edit his post so no one could connect you to, well, you.

But it's OK to scream tw's name, because he called a buddy's wife a GDW? Whoever the buddy was, he seems less concerned by this than you. You bring it up over and over...are you still hurting over it, or is it some way to cast aspersions, that you cannot otherwise find, at tw?

lumberjim · 03-03-2010, 11:19 AM

classic, I like you on a personal level.

Your interaction with tw, however, makes YOU look bad.

quit picking on the retarded kid, dumbass.

03-03-2010, 08:44 AM	#94
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	that's just emotional extremist talk. why are you so anti-american? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

03-03-2010, 10:10 AM	#96
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	As far as I am concerned, the less I know about tw, the better. Ignorance is bliss. __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

03-03-2010, 10:52 AM	#100
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	I would laugh. Oh noes! Someone's saying baaad things on teh Interwebz! __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

03-03-2010, 10:54 AM	#101
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	People with an ounce of character do not try to fuck up someone's life because they made them mad. It's petty and childish...and in some cases very very dangerous. Call him all the names you want, call him a cunt with his panties in a wad, call him anything...but I know how you'd feel if we outed your identity. I, however, as hateful as you may think me, would not consider doing such a low-handed thing. These are the kinds of behaviors that show what you really stand for (not much) and what kind of person you really are (leaving that one alone.) __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-03-2010, 11:03 AM	#102
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	thanks Shaw - I appreciate that. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

03-03-2010, 10:17 AM	#98
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I'm curious about tw and what his story is. But I agree with Happy Monkey that trying to expose someone who wishes to remain anonymous is really a pretty shitty thing to do. There are many people on the Cellar who wish to remain anonymous to the search engines and to other specific people in their real lives. They may PM each other with their real names, friend each other on facebook, or even get together in real life, but they try to be anonymous to the world when they post here. It's something that should be respected.

03-03-2010, 11:16 AM	#104
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Think about it. When you first changed your username, you were repeatedly making sure no one associated classicman with (former user name). When Shel called you by your first name, you asked that he edit his post so no one could connect you to, well, you. But it's OK to scream tw's name, because he called a buddy's wife a GDW? Whoever the buddy was, he seems less concerned by this than you. You bring it up over and over...are you still hurting over it, or is it some way to cast aspersions, that you cannot otherwise find, at tw? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-03-2010, 11:19 AM	#105
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	classic, I like you on a personal level. Your interaction with tw, however, makes YOU look bad. quit picking on the retarded kid, dumbass. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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