The Firing of Juan Williams From NPR - Page 7

tw · 10-22-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

it's the slightly middle-eastern-looking 20-something guys dressed normally and nervously looking around,

Oh if I could only be one of those again. Now I no long look around. Too old.

Flint · 10-22-2010, 09:36 PM

Some of my best friends are slightly middle-eastern-looking 20-something guys dressed normally and nervously looking around, studying the situation.

Undertoad · 10-23-2010, 08:49 AM

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NPR executives have also said they have been concerned that Fox News has used Williams, an avowedly liberal analyst, to paint NPR itself as a liberal news organization rather than a nonpartisan one.

Knee-jerk intolerant irrational anxiety about Fox News.

It doesn't work the way they think, you know. When we look back, FNC's greatest triumph will be how massively it terrified its non-watchers -- thus convincing its watchers that it's not just A force but THE force to be reckoned with.

What has NPR done? Promoted the shit out of Fox. And made Juan Williams the pre-eminent liberal name known by the right... just as he will not work for NPR anymore.

O'Reilly's ratings are up 15% this week.

Spexxvet · 10-23-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Some of my best friends are slightly middle-eastern-looking 20-something guys dressed normally and nervously looking around, studying the situation.

Worry if you see one that bulges around the midsection or has a fuse sticking out of his shoe.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So if you work for NPR you're never off duty, they own your ass.

Same concept as drug testing, and that is much more prevalent. If you do drugs on your own time, and your corporate pee test comes back hot, you are toast.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-23-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

They actually report what happens.

He was not a reporter, but an analyst, who gives an interpretation, an opinion. On FOX it would be called a spin.

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Same concept as drug testing, and that is much more prevalent. If you do drugs on your own time, and your corporate pee test comes back hot, you are toast.

Which is also wrong.

Griff · 10-23-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

He was not a reporter, but an analyst, who gives an interpretation, an opinion.

That is exactly what NPR needs to get away from. TV is not a forum for analysis. TV is pictures, gut reactions, and emotions not analysis.

One of the most irritating things NPR has done is to put washed up lefty reporters on Weekend Edition as radio analysts. Wouldn't it be possible to let the consumer analyze the news instead of hitting people over the head with spin?

Maybe there isn't a market for news, but NPR could try.

spudcon · 10-23-2010, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Same concept as drug testing, and that is much more prevalent. If you do drugs on your own time, and your corporate pee test comes back hot, you are toast.

Drug use and freedom of speech are not comparable. Everyone trashes Fox news for being biased, but NPR is not just left biased, it is bigoted.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-23-2010, 08:53 PM

Shawnee, I'll break it to you gently: the people who hate Fox News bitterly are NOT among the winners. They're not, in a fundamental way, pro-democracy, for they are pro-something else; they're not capitalists, they do not value cultivating virtue -- in a word, they aren't in connection with anything that makes a life worth having lived it.

classicman · 10-23-2010, 09:07 PM

UG - Thats just total BS. They just have a different vision of how to do things.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-23-2010, 09:12 PM

Wrong is also "different." I stand by my contention (and sotto voce acknowledge your satire). The Left found virtue inconvenient, and affects to despise it -- one more stupid thing the Left does among a whole gallimaufry of statist stupidity. Stupid because there's nothing the Left does that improves upon virtue. It ends up being a philosophy of whores.

Shawnee123 · 10-25-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Wrong is also "different." I stand by my contention (and sotto voce acknowledge your satire). The Left found virtue inconvenient, and affects to despise it -- one more stupid thing the Left does among a whole gallimaufry of statist stupidity. Stupid because there's nothing the Left does that improves upon virtue. It ends up being a philosophy of whores.

I'm glad to see consistency in the calling of the whores. That words lends as much credence to your statements as it does to mercs. You bastard.

morethanpretty · 10-25-2010, 08:13 AM

Wouldn't whores be the ultimate capitalists? I mean, they don't give anything away for free when they can charge for it. They make a profit off of sex...

xoxoxoBruce · 10-25-2010, 08:15 AM

Yes, you're absolutely right. Capitalist and whore are interchangeable these days.

Spexxvet · 10-25-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spudcon

Drug use and freedom of speech are not comparable. Everyone trashes Fox news for being biased, but NPR is not just left biased, it is bigoted.

They are comparable in that an employer should not be involved with what you do when you are not being paid by them, regardless of legality.

Urbane Guerrilla · 10-30-2010, 01:07 AM

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I'm glad to see consistency in the calling of the whores. That words {sic} lends as much credence to your statements as it does to mercs.{sic} You bastard.

Well, Shawnee, consider this. Merc and I, we have, or at least pursue, virtue, and you despise us. What would that make you? A precious daughter of God?

And for the general reading pleasure, something Tw will never exhibit the courage to click on: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...102104856.html. May cause ratiocination.

10-22-2010, 09:36 PM	#2
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10-23-2010, 08:53 PM	#8
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Shawnee, I'll break it to you gently: the people who hate Fox News bitterly are NOT among the winners. They're not, in a fundamental way, pro-democracy, for they are pro-something else; they're not capitalists, they do not value cultivating virtue -- in a word, they aren't in connection with anything that makes a life worth having lived it. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

10-23-2010, 09:07 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	UG - Thats just total BS. They just have a different vision of how to do things. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-23-2010, 09:12 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Wrong is also "different." I stand by my contention (and sotto voce acknowledge your satire). The Left found virtue inconvenient, and affects to despise it -- one more stupid thing the Left does among a whole gallimaufry of statist stupidity. Stupid because there's nothing the Left does that improves upon virtue. It ends up being a philosophy of whores. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course. Last edited by Urbane Guerrilla; 10-23-2010 at 09:24 PM.

10-25-2010, 08:13 AM	#12
morethanpretty Thats "Miss Zipper Neck" to you. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: little town (but not the littlest) in texas Posts: 2,957	Wouldn't whores be the ultimate capitalists? I mean, they don't give anything away for free when they can charge for it. They make a profit off of sex... __________________ Addicts may suck dick for coke, but love came up with the idea to put a dick in there to begin with. -Jack O'Brien

10-25-2010, 08:15 AM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yes, you're absolutely right. Capitalist and whore are interchangeable these days. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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