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[classicman]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Quite frankly, the only race issue I am beginning to see here is something approaching racial stereotyping (scary black men).
But to be clear, I am not suggesting the Republican videographer or anyone in this discussion is racist.

Ahhh - the race card, then pulling it back? Well played. Weak, but well played.

Since I'm simple or whatever it is you said... Fill in the blank for me. Who is that is racially stereotyping?

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

Ahhh - the race card, then pulling it back? Well played. Weak, but well played.

Since I'm simple or whatever it is you said... Fill in the blank for me. Who is that is racially stereotyping?

Those who put selected opinion over fact along with those who continue to look for a way to rationalize the charge of Holder as a racist.

You think it is weak for me to raise the issue of racial stereotyping but not weak to charge the AG with racism based on nothing other than opionions of other partisns?

Too fucking bad if you dont like what I posted.

[classicman]

I took it as directed toward me. If that is the case, you are goddamned right I don't like it.


If not, ... Gilda/never mind/Radnor.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

I took it as directed toward me. If that is the case, you are goddamned right I don't like it.


If not, ... Gilda/never mind/Radnor.

Where on the video is anyone shouting racial slurs or brandishing a night stick in a threaghtening manner as you suggested?

Those characterizations, without substantiation, sounds like racial stereotyping to me.

And I played the race card, but not Mercenary. What discussion have you been following?

[classicman]

So the simple answer is "Yes Classic, I'm calling you a racist."

Man the fuck up and say it!
From my Post #79

I have no sound on my computer here at work, so I don't know what the audio on either video is.

From the wiki link in post #80

During the 2008 presidential election, poll watchers found two New Black Panther militia members
shouting racial slurs
outside a polling place in Philadelphia.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

So the simple answer is "Yes Classic, I'm calling you a racist."

Man the fuck up and say it!
From my Post #79


From the wiki link in post #80

You suggest racial slurs with not even listening and based solely on a Republican poll watcher.

And you want me to man the fuck up?

Dont count on it.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

...If my daughter was going there to vote and these guys were out front shouting racial slurs and brandishing a nightstick...

What slurs, what brandishing?

At the very least, asumptions make you look like an ass.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

You want me to man the fuck up?

Dont count on it.

I haven't - not for a long time. You are incapable.

At this point, I'll just move on. Everything was very clear. You called me a racist - plain and simple. I have less than anything nice to say to you.
There can be no further discussion. It is not worth it - rather YOU are not worth it.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

I haven't - not for a long time. You are incapable.

At this point, I'll just move on. Everything was very clear. You called me a racist - plain and simple. I have less than anything nice to say to you.
There can be no further discussion. It is not worth it - rather YOU are not worth it.

Cool. Your over-sensitive ego is rearing its ugly head again.

Believe what you want and keep making your assumptions about racial slurs based on not actually having heard one but based solely on one partisan's word.

Thats not racial stereotyping.

[classicman]

What an asshole you are for again tryin to defend calling me a racist instead of simply admitting you are totally wrong and, god forbid, apologizing.
You still don't get it. I take it very personal to be called that.
Off to ignore land you go - You may now kindly go fuck yourself.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

What an asshole you are for again tryin to defend calling me a racist instead of simply admitting you are totally wrong and, god forbid, apologizing.
You still don't get it. I take it very personal to be called that.
Off to ignore land you go - You may now kindly go fuck yourself.

Damn, dude.

Take a breath and read what I posted:

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Quite frankly, the only race issue I am beginning to see here is something approaching racial stereotyping (scary black men).

But to be clear, I am not suggesting the Republican videographer or anyone in this discussion is racist.

You obviously dont understand the difference between "approaching racial stereotyping," which by the way people do every day and for the most part is not with with racist intent, as opposed to calling you or anyone a racist, which I thought I made clear in my post that there was a distinction between the two, but that you evidently read it with a defensive closed mind.

When you suggest your daughter might feel threatened by black men in street clothes, looking mean and holding a club but with no evidence of intent to harm or threaten her, IMO, that is approaching racial stereotyping. Much like a woman walking down the street pulling her handbag closer to her body as a tough looking black man approaches her as opposed to a white guy in the same street clothes. It is not racist, it is a reaction based on racial stereotype.

You get defensive, overly sensitive and then overreact and get even more defensive and the nasty side comes out.

And that my friend, is your problem, not mine.

ps. I really hope you take a second look with a more open mind, but its your choice. If you want to apologize for overreacting, that is your choice as well. It doesnt really matter to me either way.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Those who put selected opinion over fact along with those who continue to look for a way to rationalize the charge of Holder as a racist.

You think it is weak for me to raise the issue of racial stereotyping but not weak to charge the AG with racism based on nothing other than opionions of other partisns?

Too fucking bad if you dont like what I posted.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

When the DOJ engages in race motivated decisions that exclude one race over another in choosing which cases to pursue we have a major problem in this country. I have not seen anything like this since the 60's where blacks were blatantly discriminated against. It is sickening.

Hey, I'm still trying to understand how the Bush DoJ filing charges of employment discrimination against City of Dayton, what you might characterize as a race motivated decision or the federal court making what you might characterize as a race motivated settlement, makes Holder, who had nothing to do with either action, the racist.

[classicman]

I read your last post thinking perhaps you had finally come to your senses and apologized.
I thought I would have missed it with you on ignore.
I should have known better.

Lets get this right - I'll try one last time.
My daughter will most likely feel, as I think most women would, threatened by men in street clothes,
looking mean, waving a club and shouting racial slurs (ie. looking threatening or like they may harm her.)
Much like a woman walking down the street pulling her handbag closer to her body as a tough looking man/men approach her.
It is not racist, it is wise of them, and it is reality.

Originally Posted by F&B

ps. If you want to apologize for me calling you a racist, that is your choice as well.

The odds of me apologizing for you calling me a racist are ZERO.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Hey, I'm still trying to understand how the Bush DoJ filing charges of employment discrimination against City of Dayton, what you might characterize as a race motivated decision or the federal court making what you might characterize as a race motivated settlement, makes Holder, who had nothing to do with either action, the racist.

Holder drives the train. The result is nothing short of Affirmative Action, which is a racist program in and of itself. He could have stopped it, just like he did when he stopped the action against the voter intimidation case. Everything he does is suspect as being race motivated as evidenced by the testimony of the whistleblowers in the voter case.