Somebody knows somth'in bout birth'n hurricanes - Page 7

tw · 10-22-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by richlevy

... but it doesn't seem too improbable that a system built in the 1900's and updated as late as the 1980's might be obsolete by todays standards. The question becomes "why wasn't this addressed"?

Why are so many are being taken on this ride of irrelevance? Is this controversy so that we forget the lies of George Jr - ie "Nobody expected the levees to be breached"?

Everyone expected the levees to be breached. Levees were upgraded to survive a category 3 storm. They did that just fine. They were predicted to be breached by a category 4 or 5 storm. Again, they performed as expected. Where is the controversy? Facts remain: Michael Brown's own subordinate, Bahamonde, personally e-mailed Michael Brown and numerous other FEMA managers that the levee had been breached. He even personally told Michael Brown that same thing about 7 hours later by phone. And yet facts remain - Michael Brown and FEMA were in complete denial that the levees were breached - as predicted - for almost one day. Furthermore, when Brown said the levees were breached, he also said New Orleans was not filling up like a bowl. The levee breach is about FEMA lies - not about the levee construction. Those levees perfomed exactly as pedicted. It was FEMA that was in denial - letting people die while FEMA did nothing.

Construction of those levees is an interesting engineering analysis; totally irrelevant to layman. The levees performed exactly as predicted. Don't for a minute forget why 1050+ people died in New Orleans - FEMA top management AND George Jr who was told those levees would be breached and then went to San Diego for a political fund raiser.

Don't let them confuse you with irrelevant facts. People died in New Orleans as Michael Brown and George Jr remained in denial - as demonstrated by what happened to the USS Bataan.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-22-2005, 07:16 PM

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FEMA top management AND George Jr who was told those levees would be breached and then went to San Diego for a political fund raiser.

That sounds like a damn good idea. It's a shame he didn't tell everyone else to do the same.

tw · 10-23-2005, 01:28 PM

As if this year's storm season was unique, now a new possiblity. Two tropical storms - Wilma and Alpha - merging to become one:

Kitsune · 10-22-2005, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tw

Everyone expected the levees to be breached. Levees were upgraded to survive a category 3 storm. They did that just fine. They were predicted to be breached by a category 4 or 5 storm. Again, they performed as expected.

Well, there is actually an interesting part of this that not a lot of people are talking about: no winds above category 1 speed were recorded in New Orleans. Katrina came ashore as a weak 4/strong 3, but New Orleans and its levees did not see these speeds.

Elspode · 10-22-2005, 11:57 PM

Don't you people know that the government blew open the levees in order to flood the poor neighborhoods intentionally? That way, all the property can be condemned, bulldozed, seized under eminent domain, and the granted to big bucks Republican supporters for building new, pricey developments and other things more suitable to the way New Orleans should be.

At least, that's what my dog told me.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-23-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitsune

Well, there is actually an interesting part of this that not a lot of people are talking about: no winds above category 1 speed were recorded in New Orleans. Katrina came ashore as a weak 4/strong 3, but New Orleans and its levees did not see these speeds.

Your telling all that damage I saw pictures of, windows blown out, roofs blown off, signs and trees down, was from Cat 1 wind.

wolf · 10-22-2005, 12:31 PM

So wait, are you telling me that Minister Farrakhan lied to me?

gonzo_4_life15 · 10-23-2005, 02:21 PM

it looks like italy just soccer kicked a hole in whatever part of the world that is

Clodfobble · 10-23-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo 4 life in the "Trash Out" thread

at least i can speak english

But apparently you don't know a map of America when you see one. Dumbshit.

gonzo_4_life15 · 10-23-2005, 04:44 PM

ahh fuck off dickface

Elspode · 10-24-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gonzo_4_life15

ahh ---- off dickface

Not very creative, lack of capitalization and punctuation...I'm going to have to give this a 2 on scale of 10.

Kitsune · 10-24-2005, 08:20 AM

Woo! Enjoying a "South Florida Snow Day" here in Tampa! The scrub pines in the back are bending and cracking.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-24-2005, 10:57 AM

Since that was posted at 9:20 (Eastern) you must be doing OK. Hooray

Kitsune · 10-24-2005, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Since that was posted at 9:20 (Eastern) you must be doing OK. Hooray

The sun is out, already, and there is not a tree or even a branch down in the area. No power outtages, as we barely got tropical storm force winds, if that. The temperatures plummeted as Wilma rolled in and sucked a cold front in with her -- we're barely going to hit 70F, tomorrow. Unless you were in Naples or Ft Lauderdale, it is a beautiful day in Florida, today.

gonzo_4_life15 · 10-24-2005, 01:14 PM

id have to give me a good 10 on the boner scale behind brianna on those bumpy motorcycle trips

10-23-2005, 01:28 PM	#3
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	As if this year's storm season was unique, now a new possiblity. Two tropical storms - Wilma and Alpha - merging to become one: Attached Images

10-22-2005, 11:57 PM	#5
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Don't you people know that the government blew open the levees in order to flood the poor neighborhoods intentionally? That way, all the property can be condemned, bulldozed, seized under eminent domain, and the granted to big bucks Republican supporters for building new, pricey developments and other things more suitable to the way New Orleans should be. At least, that's what my dog told me. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

10-22-2005, 12:31 PM	#7
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	So wait, are you telling me that Minister Farrakhan lied to me? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-24-2005, 10:57 AM	#13
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Since that was posted at 9:20 (Eastern) you must be doing OK. Hooray __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-23-2005, 02:21 PM	#8
gonzo_4_life15 im just a hard working patriotic north american like urself Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: little house onthe prarie Posts: 41	it looks like italy just soccer kicked a hole in whatever part of the world that is

10-23-2005, 04:44 PM	#10
gonzo_4_life15 im just a hard working patriotic north american like urself Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: little house onthe prarie Posts: 41	ahh fuck off dickface

10-24-2005, 08:20 AM	#12
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Woo! Enjoying a "South Florida Snow Day" here in Tampa! The scrub pines in the back are bending and cracking.

10-24-2005, 01:14 PM	#15
gonzo_4_life15 im just a hard working patriotic north american like urself Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: little house onthe prarie Posts: 41	id have to give me a good 10 on the boner scale behind brianna on those bumpy motorcycle trips

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