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Of course, limit the trucks with expert drivers but not the cars, which essentially have no top limit and drivers who for the most part, learned from a family member at 16 and have had no further training since. I see them all day long, ten to twenty mph over, changing lanes illegally, tailgating, exiting from the left lane, failing to yield the right-of-way and much more.
Big companies are behind the push for a de facto national speed limit on one class of vehicle, a la Canada because it will eliminate the competition from independent drivers who can't haul more but can do it faster than they can. I would rather see mandatory black boxes in all cars and trucks (we already have them) but coupled to dashcam footage from the front and both sides. Then the lying and misdirections from all involved will cease and have the added benefit of cutting down on frivolous lawsuits. |
05-27-2016, 11:16 AM | #108 |
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Well now you're just making sense.
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05-27-2016, 11:42 AM | #109 |
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I went and looked up what made them want to put in limits. It was an incident last year, when 5 students were killed when a truck driver was texting and apparently it was porn and he wasn't paying attention and etc.
So this is where "safety" fails us. If he is on that stretch of road at 75 instead of 65, he is actually on it for a smaller amount of time, and less of that time is unattentive. Students are run into at 75 instead of 65, but it probably happens less often. You could lower the speed to a rate where it guarantees no road fatalities... except for the fatalities where a critical medical package doesn't arrive on time, or because all goods and services are slightly more expensive due to shipping costs... or because we're on I-95 for 27 hours just trying to get to Orlando and we shoot ourselves and our family... And, really, after my Tesla test drive, I see it's obviously only a few years out: automation is going to address this. Leave the speeds where they are, because the systems will prevent anyone running into students. At any speed. Raise the limits, that's the future. |
05-27-2016, 11:47 AM | #110 |
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When the system gets advanced enough, we won't need traffic signals any longer, and pedestrians will have homing beacons they wear (probably built into their phones) that make the cars stop for them as they approach a curb to cross the street.
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Oh that's great, and of course mandatory transponders, especially for the children, won't somebody think of the children? You sure as fuck will when you're tied up in traffic because some kid(s) are playing fucking games. Ever watch a kid keep pushing the pedestrian button, like for an hour? And if the little bastard approaches the curb all the cars stop? How far from the curb? From which direction? Jr on a dead run down an alley or side street can run out into traffic in how many nanoseconds? Oh, and the cars will stop in zero feet? Science, bitches.
You're utopia where anyone can just walk out in the street without fear, will be a fucking nightmare. There is only one way to keep people from getting hit by vehicles, and that's to eliminate one or the other. Building utopia in any existing city is not possible. And don't give me crap about this or that city did this or that to make downtown more "pedestrian friendly". Oh, they closed off two of seven thousand streets, isn't that cute. Quote:
So with your magic braking system cutting the 1.5 seconds reaction time to near zero(which I doubt unless your brakes are going to lock up the moment it senses there might be a danger), at 65 mph you start stopping 140ish feet sooner. It still takes 316/525 feet to stop, IF it's perfect traction, perfect mechanical condition, and the acquired target isn't too smart. Some truck driver jerking off on a smartphone? It doesn't matter what speed he's going. No technology will make that fool safe on the road.
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Yeah. Don't blame me. It's the way the technology is going. If all cars are computer controlled, there is no reason for traffic signals except pedestrians. Pedestrians have a right to cross the street, so you have to find a technological solution. Look at it this way, you wait for every red light for no reason, or you wait for an occasional pedestrian and have only green lights the rest of the time. Doesn't matter anyway, you'll be letting the car drive, and you'll just be posting to the cellar. They are going to ban human driven cars eventually. |
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Hey, we evolved from horse & buggies, to trains, to cars, to planes, to jets. Every advantage is always used, and every big danger, we figure out and are carefully taught. It's not like day one we have nothing, and then day two our worst fears spring to life. But the evolution happens pretty quickly when it needs to, when there's a big advantage.
we're adults, we got this D'ya ever think about the *crazy* amount of information in your head just about transportation signals alone? Colors of signs, shapes of signs, colors of lines, numbers of lines, colors of lights, placement of lights, implied limits, real limits; everything in our world is oriented around this one system. We spend years learning it. |
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And, then, BAM!, flying cars.
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No, it's what urban nerds and control freaks are thinking. It's against the laws of nature, stupid people should die... without reproducing.
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I'm going to be on that exact stretch of road Saturday morning.
Looks like a minivan cut off a semi, which rear-ended it, but it was pulling a ramped, empty bed, so when the semi behind that rear-ended the first semi, it went flying through the air like a Dukes of Hazzard episode. |
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Exactly, and by the skid marks he wasn't on the brakes long before impact.
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And the lesson I take away from this is that the red truck filming the whole thing was at a nice safe following distance, so he/she had plenty of time to avoid the whole mess.
High speed traffic without the appropriate following distance is just one idiot away from a disaster. Moron does something stupid and there is no room for the other drivers to avoid. Idiots shouldn't be. But that's never gonna happen. So when traffic gets more dense, it needs to slow down so the smaller following distances are appropriate for the speed. edit: Our red truck is 4 seconds behind the burning truck. 3 seconds should be the minimum, but 4 seconds is even better. |
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