Let them eat cake!

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brianna

mr. Obvious? No.

the 'system' should help the helpless to engage in society. It's good for the mental health plus more. You wanna deprive good people the chance to contribute? talk to someone else. Lots of folk want to m atter...you can volunteer without loss of benes....or didn't you know that?

Huh?

I don't get the connection between what I said and what you said.

My point was that if it is currently set up so that if you earn over a certain dollar amount you lose a large lump sum, then that actually discourages the recipient from earning money unless they can make enough to cover the entire SSDI payout and more. If, instead, the SSDI was decreased slowly as the recipient earned more, then every dollar they earned would reperesent a net increase in income, and there would be no point at which earning another dollar would be a net negative.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Huh?

I don't get the connection between what I said and what you said.

My point was that if it is currently set up so that if you earn over a certain dollar amount you lose a large lump sum, then that actually discourages the recipient from earning money unless they can make enough to cover the entire SSDI payout and more. If, instead, the SSDI was decreased slowly as the recipient earned more, then every dollar they earned would reperesent a net increase in income, and there would be no point at which earning another dollar would be a net negative.

it;s possible that I didn't mean YOU>

[Trilby]

ah...the Beauty of Marichiko--STAFF SPLITTING!

I've known this for from ever.

I've dealt with loads of very deserving disabled folk--their biggest, brightest asset? their want to contribute--no matter how small.

[lumberjim]

I had the impression that if she made more than X, she'd lose all of the benefits altogether. If, in fact, you can earn what you want, but you give up SSDI dollars on an even scale, why not work? it'd be like a safety net, right?

[DanaC]

Elspode and rkzenrage, very eloquently put.


The system of capping anything you earn over your benefits is the system we use here too.

I think people are allows to earn about £15 pound a week above.

[Trilby]

I think everyone should be allowed a carte blanche---no matter what the crime. At least twice. Maybe three times

After that? I think it should be given. People here have rested on a given.

Socialists? God, I admire you--you who have never, ever been exploited. you pure white souls. you gorgeous lovlies.

[Trilby]

ah. guilty as charged.

[busterb]

I draw SS disability. By luck I paid enough in to get around $1200 each month before Medicare is taken out. Once I cursed because I worked construction and when you changed jobs they started taking it out again. So by my figures, after I pay bank, insurance and a few other things I have $599.83 bucks to pay city, which is gas, water, trash. Phone, is dsl, and video, cable. VA for meds. All that's left over I can piss away on food, beer, gas, repair house, any drugs and DR. bills. The tooth fairy and eye glasses. I have local. BTW, while waiting for this to happen I had damn little help from any Gov. For around 3 years.
If you have the dream that the benefits are the same for every state, you are wrong. If I was crazy enough to move to, say CA. I think I could get more money. If you move here from CA. you loose money.
Walk a mile in someone else's shoes. Hey I'm happy as a pig in shit. Go Mari.

[busterb]

Sorry. I now remember what set that rant off. I sent off for the info on working while disabled. Because I was going nuts, hey it got my 1st computer. Anyway they said I could earn in a month what I could make in about 3 days, when able. So I'm going to drive to ,say the west coast and make 2k a week and get down and can't work, get kicked off and have to wait 3 years? Hell no. Now I don't even have a choice.

[DanaC]

Socialists? God, I admire you--you who have never, ever been exploited. you pure white souls. you gorgeous lovlies.

never been exploited? Fuck you and the spaceship you dropped down in.

[xoxoxoBruce]

The story of Aesop's life has more holes than a colander.
Does that make his parables less valuable for teaching problems and how (or how not) to deal with them?

[Aliantha]

Someone said 'schizos' can't operate computers.

HELLO??!!!!

Better put your brain in gear next time before you open your mouth.

[DanaC]

Ignoring Mari, and those I know like her IRL is mine. I prefer to surround myself with people who, depite the gravest of situations, try to look at the good things they still have going for them and focus on that.

Except you aren't ignoring are you? It's like some others on here, who go to the trouble to post that they've heard it all before.......well, if the conversation bores/irritates you then here's a clue: back button at the top of your browser; press it and go read something else on the site, there's a lot of it. People keep expending time and energy talking about how they don't want to hear any more of this; that they've heard it all before; that it's boring and (in some cases) they don't even believe it.....it's a little like watching a TV programme you hate and complaining loudly throughout the show. Just change the fucking channel.

I don't, nor I doubt does anybody else, read everything on this site. there are threads i just never click on, because the topic doesn't interest me and there are threads I visit for awhile until they start pissing me off and then I dump then. If you see a mari post and when you go check it out, you think it's just the same old bullshit, and that annoys you, then go read something else. I just do not understand the need people have to expend energy on a thread they see as pointless and annoying. Then having baited the fuck out of Mari, they complain that she is always talking about her illness or income. Don't throw things at someone and not expect them to try and defend themselves, it's just unreasonable.

Jesus H. Fucking Christ. It's so utterly disengenuous to needle someone into defence then round on them for that defence.

And Bri what the fuck is all this about 'Schizophrenics can do this, schizophrenics can't do that?' How many tens of patients did you base that little gem on? That explains a lot about your attitude, you clearly think if someone doesn't fit your very (medically and psychiatrically unsound) narrow perception of what is meant by such disorders. No wonder you didn't stay in the field, my guess is you left because you sucked at it.

[lumberjim]

the polarization here is interesting. with topics like this, it becomes very clear just who the 'likeminded' people are. At least, to me it does.

Here's the thing: Those of you that are defending Marichiko feel like she's being unjustly attacked by bitter and cold people that are insensitive to her plight. Those of us who've had it up to here ^ with her, have heard it all before in various iterations of woah is meisms, and after 2+ years of it, she has changed nothing.

Originally Posted by sky

My idea:

Move to a big city and live downtown!
Take public transportation.
Get a bike.
Just changing local to an urban district and eliminating the need for a car would easily add mucho money.

even the crazy chick can figure this out.

mari CHOOSES to live in an environment that provides very minimal support for those who cannot or will not do for themselves. She is obviously satisfied with her lot, and bitches mainly for attention. I believe that she is truly struggling financially. but, guess what? that's her fucking choice!

she PLAINLY has the acumen and the education to work if she chose to. despite all of her excuses to the contrary, her very thoroughly researched reasons why she can;t work are, in direct conflict with her statements, evidence that she COULD. Not in the mountains of Colorado, maybe, But in say.....Denver, or Boulder or somewhere where there are companies that need employees.

bottom line: she chooses her lifestyle. and then she bitches about it. I say tough shit, fuck you, get a job if you don't like being poor, or be happy with what you are GIVEN.

cocks

[anonymous]

Originally Posted by BigLargeMcHuge

Those of us who've had it up to here ^ with her, have heard it all before in various iterations of woah is meisms, and after 2+ years of it, she has changed nothing.

Comment from the peanut gallery: Then why do you continue to play the game? It reminds me of the playground where the big kids all pick on one of the others. After two years, why do you still derive satisfaction from the game? Could it be that some of you have self esteem issues and are throwing your own character defects out in the open? This has been a very interesting read, I must say.

Carry on.