Clinton campaign demonstrates repeated incompetence - Page 8

deadbeater · 02-25-2008, 05:10 PM

Oh, is Obama a Muslim? Funny, he sometimes dresses
like one, according to a Clinton press release picture to Drudge Report.. More incompetency from the Clinton campaign, as it showed Obama dressing like an Kenyan/Somali, and wearing the suit well. Bet we won't catch Hillary Clinton wearing a kimono, no matter how many times she visited China and Japan. More of this silly season.

glatt · 02-26-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater

Bet we won't catch Hillary Clinton wearing a kimono, no matter how many times she visited China and Japan.

Actually, the Washington Post, in its style section, dug around for a silly picture of Clinton it could run in order to compare something to the Obama photo.

They found this one to run.

BizarreTees · 02-25-2008, 05:32 PM

I don't know.. imho with the socialized healthcare, I think it sounds good on top but once it comes down to it a lot of folks won't like it. You are still paying for healthcare - it's not free. It's just coming out of your paycheck in the form of higher taxes... and not only will you be paying for your own healthcare, but you will be paying the healthcare of everyone not paying taxes. Folks not paying taxes are really the only ones getting free healthcare.

I'd like to see how they are going to work it out and how much folks will be taxed. And how they will work around the problems that other countries with socialized healthcare have.. such as being on a waiting list for important surgeries that we can get immediately here. Lots of people travel here to the US to get surgeries because of how poor the universal healthcare in their country is.

deadbeater · 02-25-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BizarreTees

I don't know.. imho with the socialized healthcare, I think it sounds good on top but once it comes down to it a lot of folks won't like it. You are still paying for healthcare - it's not free. It's just coming out of your paycheck in the form of higher taxes... and not only will you be paying for your own healthcare, but you will be paying the healthcare of everyone not paying taxes. Folks not paying taxes are really the only ones getting free healthcare.

I'd like to see how they are going to work it out and how much folks will be taxed. And how they will work around the problems that other countries with socialized healthcare have.. such as being on a waiting list for important surgeries that we can get immediately here. Lots of people travel here to the US to get surgeries because of how poor the universal healthcare in their country is.

There should be a few bucks from defunding the Iraq War.

BizarreTees · 02-25-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater

There should be a few bucks from defunding the Iraq War.

Haha, I know, right? Unfortunately they will probably tax us. At least, that's what they have said they would do.

deadbeater · 02-25-2008, 05:37 PM

Now Clinton supporters resort to stabbing Obama supporters? Who are the real zealots?

Aliantha · 02-25-2008, 05:39 PM

Isn't the private health insurance industry government regulated in the US?

TheMercenary · 02-26-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Isn't the private health insurance industry government regulated in the US?

All aspects of any insurance industry are regulated by the State. But that is a loose term, regulate, in the since they can charge what the market will tolerate, but they cannot over charge or discriminate in how they charge.

deadbeater · 02-25-2008, 05:45 PM

Now Clinton is demonstrating the latest Saturday Night Live as evidence of bias against Clinton. Funny, unless one can say that a show Tina Fey making the best pro-Clinton statement of anyone else in the campaign season and Barack Obama in Blackface (ok, Indianface) exhibited signs of bias against Clinton.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-25-2008, 10:48 PM

I think I have more respect for Tina Fey, than Ted Kennedy.

DanaC · 02-26-2008, 01:52 AM

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Lots of doctors and medical facilities will probably go out of business with universal healthcare, and getting a medical degree won't be such a great thing anymore, because you won't be making any more money than any other doctor - no matter how much you study to be the best in your field with additional courses etc

Many of our NHS doctors also work in the private sector. We have socialised medicine, with everyone guaranteed medical care regardless of income; however, we also have private medicine for those who can afford it and choose to use it. Many jobs carry private medical insurance as one of their perks. Just because there is socialised medicine doesn't mean doctors can't make a mint.

TheMercenary · 02-26-2008, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Many of our NHS doctors also work in the private sector. We have socialised medicine, with everyone guaranteed medical care regardless of income; however, we also have private medicine for those who can afford it and choose to use it. Many jobs carry private medical insurance as one of their perks. Just because there is socialised medicine doesn't mean doctors can't make a mint.

And if we go to universal care we will get the same thing. Just what people here are bitching about. A two tiered system. Sure you can get that knee replaced in 9 months, or you can go down the street to my office when I get off at noon and we can do it next week.

Shawnee123 · 02-26-2008, 08:12 AM

Those are the worst Halloween Conehead costumes I've ever seen.

TheMercenary · 02-26-2008, 09:09 AM

The hybrid system you are talking about is sort of the ideas being floated by both the Demoncrats running now. A lot of people do not understand how the system works now other than there are people who are insured and those who are not, and that the poor get free care now, while those who work and pay taxes do not. This is the bit we need to fix and continue to keep it profitable for those of us who do it for a living to make a living. The system is so very complicated. The idea that we can in some way adopt a system from a country with the GDP of Vermont is fantasy. It isn't going to happen. So many other parts of our system would be effected by a radical systemic change. I say we work towards some sort of coverage like GAP insurance or something government sponsored and fix our TAX system, see where things fall out from that. I don't know the answers but I know where it is broken.

Flint · 02-26-2008, 09:13 AM

Well, then they should be asking somebody who knows something about it, like yourself.

02-25-2008, 05:10 PM	#1
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Oh, is Obama a Muslim? Funny, he sometimes dresses like one, according to a Clinton press release picture to Drudge Report.. More incompetency from the Clinton campaign, as it showed Obama dressing like an Kenyan/Somali, and wearing the suit well. Bet we won't catch Hillary Clinton wearing a kimono, no matter how many times she visited China and Japan. More of this silly season. Last edited by deadbeater; 02-25-2008 at 05:15 PM.

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02-26-2008, 09:09 AM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	The hybrid system you are talking about is sort of the ideas being floated by both the Demoncrats running now. A lot of people do not understand how the system works now other than there are people who are insured and those who are not, and that the poor get free care now, while those who work and pay taxes do not. This is the bit we need to fix and continue to keep it profitable for those of us who do it for a living to make a living. The system is so very complicated. The idea that we can in some way adopt a system from a country with the GDP of Vermont is fantasy. It isn't going to happen. So many other parts of our system would be effected by a radical systemic change. I say we work towards some sort of coverage like GAP insurance or something government sponsored and fix our TAX system, see where things fall out from that. I don't know the answers but I know where it is broken. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

02-25-2008, 05:32 PM	#3
BizarreTees Kickass New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 6	I don't know.. imho with the socialized healthcare, I think it sounds good on top but once it comes down to it a lot of folks won't like it. You are still paying for healthcare - it's not free. It's just coming out of your paycheck in the form of higher taxes... and not only will you be paying for your own healthcare, but you will be paying the healthcare of everyone not paying taxes. Folks not paying taxes are really the only ones getting free healthcare. I'd like to see how they are going to work it out and how much folks will be taxed. And how they will work around the problems that other countries with socialized healthcare have.. such as being on a waiting list for important surgeries that we can get immediately here. Lots of people travel here to the US to get surgeries because of how poor the universal healthcare in their country is.

02-25-2008, 05:37 PM	#6
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Now Clinton supporters resort to stabbing Obama supporters? Who are the real zealots?

02-25-2008, 05:45 PM	#9
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Now Clinton is demonstrating the latest Saturday Night Live as evidence of bias against Clinton. Funny, unless one can say that a show Tina Fey making the best pro-Clinton statement of anyone else in the campaign season and Barack Obama in Blackface (ok, Indianface) exhibited signs of bias against Clinton.

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