Critique of Black Culture

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

The "expressions of legitimate concerns" is the right, if not duty, of every thinking person. The difference lies in if they are expressing these concerns while working to improve their lot or while waiting for someone else (gumint?) to do it for them.

Keep in mind, though, that many people believe that the government should take care of such issues. That's not necessarily good or bad...it just is.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Yup... for me, it was Good Charlotte. Holy crap, they just *suck*, don't the kids see it? What is it with this youth culture!

They're hit and miss with me...I like some of their stuff. I have a soft spot for them b/c they broke while we lived in DC, and they're from nearby Waldorf, MD. Kind of like how I have soft spots for Philadelphia artists, even if I don't like them (Freeway, Jaguar Wright).

[Undertoad]

Eve and of course The Roots which we have talked about before. Does Philly get its props for turning out such legitimate musicians as its contribution to hip hop?

[elSicomoro]

I'd say so...The Roots helped put Philadelphia back on the music map.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Keep in mind, though, that many people believe that the government should take care of such issues. That's not necessarily good or bad...it just is.

I think it's bad and I think it's a product of the welfare system.
That mentality of, it's the gumints job, has been seeping into the thinking of the general public, for the people that grew up in the welfare system as a given and for the people who were not in the system thinking "well if they gumint can take care of those people on welfare they can damn well take care of my problem.
The other thing being "if the gumint can spend $300 million studying the sex life of a tree frog they can damn well take care of my problem".
I think most people will agree that any problem the gumint sets out to handle, is going to cost too much and take too long, at best.

[elSicomoro]

I don't disagree with you on your last point, Bruce. As far as the government's role in our lives...I do think that the government should take care of us. Having said that, I don't think the bureaucracy could be tamed to the point where it would be possible, which is why I support ending SS and do not support universal healthcare.

[OnyxCougar]

Good Charlotte? The Roots? Eve?


WTF is that?

I was born in 1970. What labelled generation am I in?

[elSicomoro]

They're music artists (The Roots and Good Charlotte are bands) that have risen to popularity over the past 5 years. Are you not familiar with them? If not, I wouldn't be surprised, given that you didn't know who The Smiths were...and you lived in the UK during the height of their popularity.

Depending on who you talk to, you're either a Gen Xer or part of the 13th Generation.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sycamore

I don't disagree with you on your last point, Bruce. As far as the government's role in our lives...I do think that the government should take care of us. Having said that, I don't think the bureaucracy could be tamed to the point where it would be possible, which is why I support ending SS and do not support universal healthcare.

Oh I see, having paid the max to SS all these years, now that I'm ready to collect, you want to stop it. I don't think so.

[elSicomoro]

Easy there, old man. Any child born on or after...lets say 1/1/08...should not receive SS.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by sycamore

They're music artists (The Roots and Good Charlotte are bands) that have risen to popularity over the past 5 years. Are you not familiar with them? If not, I wouldn't be surprised, given that you didn't know who The Smiths were...and you lived in the UK during the height of their popularity.

Depending on who you talk to, you're either a Gen Xer or part of the 13th Generation.

Never heard of them. Granted, I don't have my radio on 24/7 or anything, but I've heard of the big popular people.

[russotto]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

And quite a few people disagree, saying it's '43 to '60. It appears the social security people are among that group. :p

Any definitions of the Baby Boomers that have a date of conception preceding V-E day are pretty silly.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by russotto

Any definitions of the Baby Boomers that have a date of conception preceding V-E day are pretty silly.

the injured came home early and ushered in the new america, popping out kids, starting construction companies, buying land, and pushing higher education. anything after '43 should be reasonable.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sycamore

Easy there, old man. Any child born on or after...lets say 1/1/08...should not receive SS.

Not if Bush gets his way. He'll have spent it paying for his adventures in Allah land.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by lookout123

the injured came home early and ushered in the new america, popping out kids, starting construction companies, buying land, and pushing higher education. anything after '43 should be reasonable.

There wasn't any construction going on that wasn't for the War Department. As a matter of fact if something wasn't part of the war effort it just didn't happen until VE day and then only a little before VJ day. Therefore they had plenty of time for poppin' out babies.
Boomer is a much shortened version of what was originally Post War Baby Boom. Shortening the name shouldn't alter the original definition, but with the rate that history is being rewritten these days, Who knows.