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These, mostly Jordanian schoolbooks didn't stand in the way to make peace with Jordan. Egypt had and still has lotsa antisemitic papers, still there's an active peace between Israel and Egypt.
This should be a good indication that once there is intention on both sides and partners to attain peace, the textbooks cannot stand in the way. The Israeli occupation authority used the Jordanian textbooks for 30 years, and they claim that they removed the “hate education” from them before reprinting them. Unfortunately, some of the things they removed had nothing to do with hate. Displacing the word “Palestine” wherever it occurred in the textbooks by the word “Israel” no matter in what context or period in time, was so ridiculous that it became a laughing matter amongst students and teachers alike, (as an example, in the History textbook of the ninth grade about the crusades, the text “When the Crusades came to Palestine in the 11th century “ became “ when the Crusades came to Israel”). Other displacements were more subtle but dangerous. Learning such values as “valor”, “ love of one’s land”, “sacrifice”, and similar values in reading books is important for children, and they cannot be described as “hate material”, yet many statements and poems with such values were removed. If anything, they indicated bad intentions on the part of Israel in mis-educating Palestinian children. Quote:
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By the way, "facts" that have heavy perspective dependencies have little claim on actually being facts as opposed to interpretations.
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Er, good point, I hadn't noticed that.
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Let me see if I can get this straight...
The Palestinians are both the innocent victims of Israeli aggression and terrorists who kill Israeli civilians. The Israeli's are trying to defend their homeland from people who blow themselves up in markets by dropping using full-blown military incursions into sovereign territory. And who again are the people that are 'right' and 'good' in this situation?
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As you note I'm not Brianna, furthermore I'm not her sista in any sense (that's another howler, there) and I didn't call anything anti-Semitic; I simply pointed out that something that is highly dependant on perspective isn't a fact, it's an interpretation. Of course, other than that you're batting 1.000. Facts don't come from perspectives. tw is very fond of referring to his opinons as "facts", perhaps in the hope it will spare them close inspection. You know he's entered 100% incoherent mode when he starts foaming about "these are the facts".
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I PM'd H-kos - I strongly suspected he was European, and I cheated and looked at his IP address which verified it. I don't know if that qualifies as using privs to bias the discussion, but it was bad karma anyway, and I apologized to him.
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mmmm...... Eurpean is the new black, UT?
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