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10-29-2006, 03:15 AM
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Yeah, that's hard core. Actually tongue and groove aluminum extrusions would work though, because they couldn't get their fingers in once it was closed.
Oh, and 5 ton cylinders closing them. 
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10-30-2006, 08:04 PM
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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11-02-2006, 01:13 AM
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Since we didn't see the system fail, we don't know that they don't do that, now do we. :p
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11-02-2006, 05:44 AM
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I've given up - we are obviously seeing something different...
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11-02-2006, 10:21 AM
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Hey, Flint.
This is the part I don't understand. Where is the line that divides the responsibility for what happens with the government and the individual? What "certain amount of violation" is acceptably risky? And what burden for their actions do the drivers bear? What if the posts rose at a rate of, say, one inch per hour. Who could be surprised by that? But at *some point*, *some car*, travelling at *some speed*, following at *some distance* would come into contact with the post, don't you agree? So maybe that rate is too fast. What about the rate at which a tree grows? Slow enough that "road users" would not be "put at risk"? If they're tailgaiting, and that violation is already established: "ONE car per GREEN", then no system can be established that doesn't put road users at risk. It is not possible. There is no rate at which the bollards could rise that eliminates risk to the road users. You're chasing something that doesn't exist.
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11-02-2006, 10:24 AM
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11-02-2006, 11:04 AM
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to clarify, I didn't overlook this:
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio Last edited by Flint; 11-02-2006 at 11:19 AM. |
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11-02-2006, 10:25 AM
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I don't generally put up my own Cellar tag lines, but.
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11-02-2006, 01:03 PM
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11-02-2006, 10:49 AM
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I'm not "chasing something that doesn't exist" because the paraphrase of my argument has been "these devices look unsafe, there has to be a better way, and I don't know what it is."
Regarding the regulations, they are written with full acknowledgement that "there will be instances where two or more vehicles attempt to pass through in close succession" so repeating ad nauseum that these drivers are in the wrong is not adding new information. The devices shown do not "risk a certain amount of violation by "tailgating" vehicles, rather than put road users at risk" as the regulations dictate, so they aren't compliant.
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11-02-2006, 12:11 PM
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Hey, maybe there are dozens of people getting through, and these idiots just didn't tailgate close enough or fast enough? I'd recommend to them that they give it another shot.
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11-02-2006, 12:16 PM
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11-03-2006, 04:23 AM
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What we see is a compilation of clips from who knows how many hours of monitoring this one installation, possibly put together to convince people it can't be done and discourage them from trying it. Britain, being generally considered a "first world" country, with scientists, engineers, lawyers and politicians with their ear to their constituents, certainly should be able to determine if their system complies with their law(guidelines). I'd add Claymores. 
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To shreds, you say?
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