When it becomes Hillary v McCain

[glatt]

you love her

[spudcon]

Actually, we in America are royally screwed no matter which of the 3 clones wins.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by spudcon

Actually, we in America are royally screwed no matter which of the 3 clones wins.

I am beginning to believe that.

[Shawnee123]

Don't worry, Obama will act like he loves us for 20 years, then when we embarrass him a couple times he'll drop us like so much used kleenex. It's called "conviction fence-sitting."

[Happy Monkey]

[Radar]

Thanks Monkey. This is all any reasonable person needs to prove that McCain is insane and he belongs nowhere near the whitehouse or in any other part of government. America was most certainly not founded on Judeo-Christian ethics, principles, or doctrine.

[deadbeater]

Considering that Bush is intending to pay for 100 plus years of occupation in Iraq, let's say we cut that and spend it on things we need.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by deadbeater

Considering that Bush is intending to pay for 100 plus years of occupation in Iraq, let's say we cut that and spend it on things we need.

Not an answer. Show me the money.

First we have to pay for what we have on credit. You understand that, sort of like a credit card. Ok? Then after we pay for that how do we pay for all the social programs?

I know! we use the liberal left idea and tax corps and people who make money!

So what do we do when Exxon or other big corps say fuck it, see ya! wouldn't want to be ya! We will just set up shop in the Gulf of Oman and fuck you we are moving next week! Then what?

People who have money say fuck you I will just find better ways to legally shelter mine and give less to charity (people like me), or pay myself, hire all of my kids and my wife (legally) and you get shit!

COOL! then what?

[lookout123]

That's the part that frustrates me when talking listening to people talking about taxing "the rich". They don't get it. They tax increases really only affect their neighbors. People they see on a daily basis, people who dwell in the cellar, people who work hard for a living... people who don't pay attorneys and accountants tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars annually to take care of the issue. For every rich tax and redistribute plan created there is a new trust or entity created to beat that tax for the truly wealthy. The truly wealthy pay an astronomical sum in terms of dollars, but little in actual percentage because they have attorneys to take care of that. Bill down the street who busted his ass to build a successful small business and has finally cracked into six figures is the one who gets screwed so someone can feel good about taxing the rich.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by lookout123

Bill down the street who busted his ass to build a successful small business and has finally cracked into six figures is the one who gets screwed so someone can feel good about taxing the rich.

Here here....

[smoothmoniker]

"The Rich" includes anyone who makes more than me. Screw em.

[Radar]

I think "the rich" describes those who make more than $500,000 per year and "the wealthy" describes those who make more than 50 million per year. I loved it when Chris Rock described the difference between the rich and the wealthy. He said if Bill Gates woke up with Oprah Winfrey's money, he'd jump out the window of a tall skyscraper and slash his own throat on the way down.

[lookout123]

What if they only make that amount one year? two?

[headsplice]

Originally Posted by Radar

I think "the rich" describes those who make more than $500,000 per year and "the wealthy" describes those who make more than 50 million per year

I'm pretty sure median income (per household) in the US hovers just under $50000/year. Anyone making six figures is fairly rich.

[lookout123]

bullshit. $100,000 does NOT make one rich or even "fairly rich". It makes them someone who probably busts there ass to provide for their family just like you do. They've just chosen a field that pays better.