Self Policing Militia Summons - Page 9

wolf · 06-18-2010, 12:04 PM

The following is my own opinion and does not represent an official position or opinion of the management, unless UT says so:

Okay. I've read through this, and I see calls for the Moderators to do something we are not here to do ... censor content.

The Cellar is what it is ... a community. Communities have their ups and downs, arguments, making-ups, conservatives, liberals, swingers, people being supportive, divisive, rarely just plain not caring, why would we show up here otherwise.

The administrator and moderators are not here to be the graphite to your uranium. There is a reason "insufferably annoying" is not further defined.

Go back about your business of posting. Nothing to see here, move along.

lumberjim · 06-18-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

The following is my own opinion and does not represent an official position or opinion of the management, unless UT says so:

Okay. I've read through this, and I see calls for the Moderators to do something we are not here to do ... censor content.

The Cellar is what it is ... a community. Communities have their ups and downs, arguments, making-ups, conservatives, liberals, swingers, people being supportive, divisive, rarely just plain not caring, why would we show up here otherwise.

The administrator and moderators are not here to be the graphite to your uranium. There is a reason "insufferably annoying" is not further defined.

Go back about your business of posting. Nothing to see here, move along.

I strongly disagree. I think there IS something to see here. Several people have expressed their displeasure with a disruptive presence within the community, and ignoring the problem will only drive away the valued participants and leave those of you who chose not to fight in the company of the few problem posters.

You are right in that it is not a moderator's role to weed out the unpopular amongst us. However, it is the Admin's role to foster an environment that is conducive to maximum participation by all members. Or at least, should be in my opinion. When a few are persistently and apparently willfully ruining that environment, and are unwilling or unable to stop it.....they need to be stopped. Again, IMO.

If, after all of this, Ute decides that inaction is the best course, then so be it. And you'll have more of the same. Won't that be lovely.

jinx · 06-18-2010, 01:13 PM

Yeah, I think just the talking about it helps.

Undertoad · 06-18-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

If, after all of this, Ute decides that inaction is the best course, then so be it.

Well you offered two courses of action, one impossible, one banning. I'm still trying to figure out which is the better option.

Flint · 06-18-2010, 12:06 PM

Amen. That right there is why we are The Cellar.

DanaC · 06-18-2010, 01:11 PM

I still think the conversation was worth having though. If nothing else I suspect it's drawn some people's attention to what they're doing in here :P

Flint · 06-18-2010, 02:25 PM

Ban lumberjim and the whole "problem" just goes away!

lumberjim · 06-18-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

Ban lumberjim and the whole "problem" just goes away!

ban your face!

Flint · 06-18-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

ban your face!

ban your ƒuckin cock you fat sh!t for brains

sexobon · 06-18-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

ban your face!

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Originally Posted by Flint

ban your ƒuckin cock you fat sh!t for brains

If lumberjim and Flint get each other banned, that'll leave jinx and Pooka for me. Eureka! I've hit the MILF mother lode.

Sundae · 06-18-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon

If lumberjim and Flint get each other banned, that'll leave jinx and Pooka for me. Eureka! I've hit the MILF mother lode.

That brings to mind grim images of breastmilk shooting out of control for some reason...

Classic - I only put that option in there in the interest of total honesty.
My liking for Dwellars is not based on political ideals - Dana and I share an ideology (to an extent) but most people here are to the right of me and I adore them.
I will admit Merc's opinions have ticked me off in the past. Purely his opinions. But I've had much more of a problem with his responses. Until yes, I started to avoid any thread with that kind of conflict in it in case I was drawn to make sniping remarks myself.

I think the Cellar would be damaged far more by censorship than it is by petty arguments. If we are a community, really a community, we should be able to bring pressure to bear without resorting to strong-arm moderation. Isn't that what people say the Muslim community should be doing? (Okay, horrible comparison

) I value free speech. And that's your (plural) fault. Let's work this out ourselves.

lumberjim · 06-24-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

ban your ƒuckin cock you fat sh!t for brains

lumberjim · 06-18-2010, 02:35 PM

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/usergroup_add

OR

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/user_infractions

looks like there are somethings that can be done short of ousting people....

classicman · 06-18-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I would consider TheMercenary to be intolerably irritating if there were nobody responding to his crap.

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Totally agree.

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

Agree. Perhaps I feel this way because Redux is on my side of the political spectrum.

HM - I seriously doubt that you would feel the same if you agreed with his viewpoint.
SG - Hmm, perhaps. I think you may have nailed it.

I took myself out of the equation by putting them on ignore, but I will throw in my 2 cents here...

It seems to me, that over the past year+ any mention of anything negative about the current admin or their "team" gets hammered by the same clique. If there is anything other than praise for their "team" and what they do, then they get shitty.

The pigpile on themerc has been going on for a long time though and I find it very tiring. Redux has his ardent supporters. He comes in right after his posts with the same old tired policy line that one can get anywhere. They the others follow with the snide carping and adolescent worthlessness.
Merc, conversely has... well himself.

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Originally Posted by jinx

More specifically, every current event topic turns into a redux/Cman argument.

Many times I post something I found "interesting" or that I want to share with the cellar. I used to look for your (plural) opinions and viewpoints on that. Lately, all my posting in CE or Politics has been followed with a virtually immediate reply by him where he consistently states his party line or talking points. I can get that on the WH website, huffpo, msnbc... take your pick. My initial post was more often than not, already in response in response to that which was in the news - the party line. No need for him to regurgitate the same thing. The spiral continues. Dissension will not be allowed. You will be talked over. Irritating? Yup. Condescending attitude? yes. His opinion? Those who disagree are less intelligent and or lesser people W/E. I'm sorry, I'm getting off track.

I am not defending my actions. I am guilty of being an ass. Right now, I don't care anymore - I'm disgusted, both with myself and in general. I've been rereading a lot of what I have posted and I'm embarrassed. It is so contrary to the person I am IRL. I've even been discussing this with several current and past dwellars over the last few months. I've censored myself the best I can by putting them all on ignore.
For which I was again ridiculed. here. I also offered an option here. Aside from lookout, I was ignored.

Happy Monkey · 06-18-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

HM - I seriously doubt that you would feel the same if you agreed with his viewpoint.

I wouldn't feel identical. Being irritated that a troll agrees with me is different from a troll I disagree with. Maybe worse.

06-18-2010, 12:04 PM	#1
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	The following is my own opinion and does not represent an official position or opinion of the management, unless UT says so: Okay. I've read through this, and I see calls for the Moderators to do something we are not here to do ... censor content. The Cellar is what it is ... a community. Communities have their ups and downs, arguments, making-ups, conservatives, liberals, swingers, people being supportive, divisive, rarely just plain not caring, why would we show up here otherwise. The administrator and moderators are not here to be the graphite to your uranium. There is a reason "insufferably annoying" is not further defined. Go back about your business of posting. Nothing to see here, move along. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-18-2010, 01:13 PM	#3
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Yeah, I think just the talking about it helps. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

06-18-2010, 12:06 PM	#5
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Amen. That right there is why we are The Cellar. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-18-2010, 02:25 PM	#7
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	Ban lumberjim and the whole "problem" just goes away! __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

06-18-2010, 02:35 PM	#13
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/usergroup_add OR http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/user_infractions looks like there are somethings that can be done short of ousting people.... __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

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