The Politics of a Health Crisis - Page 8

Flint · 04-01-2020, 01:56 PM

asked for the same supplies we were shipping?
"we should elect somebody who is good with business to run the government" lol

Luce · 04-01-2020, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

100% true. Feb. 7.

We fought the virus over there so we didn't have to fight it here, or something

It's how USAID operates. They have now been EnTiReLy shut down after it was learned we asked Thailand for supplies while shipping them the same supplies

This is why I hate humans, really.

sexobon · 04-01-2020, 03:12 PM

Russia is sending us stuff.

Quote:

Putin sends military plane to U.S. with supplies to fight virus

A Russian military plane carrying medical equipment has departed for the United States, the defense ministry in Moscow said Wednesday, as the Kremlin flexes its soft power amid the coronavirus pandemic. The Antonov-124, "with medical masks and medical equipment on board", left for the U.S. overnight, a statement said, without providing further details. ...

… Contacted by AFP, the defense ministry refused to provide any further information on the delivery, which came after Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke with U.S. counterpart Donald Trump on Monday. ...

[BOLD MINE]

The beautiful Russian nurses accompanying the shipment are classified information. We'll never see 'em.

BigV · 04-01-2020, 06:57 PM

I want Mike Pence to be my hype man.

He's just as impervious to direct questions as Kellyanne Conway, but prettier.

Griff · 04-02-2020, 06:16 AM

Pretty gay for the VP!

henry quirk · 04-03-2020, 12:23 PM

Infections

COVID-19: Approximately 1,026,974 cases worldwide; 245,573 cases in the U.S. as of Apr. 3, 2020.

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.

Deaths

COVID-19: Approximately 53,975 deaths reported worldwide; 6,058 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 3, 2020.

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

Clodfobble · 04-03-2020, 12:39 PM

And yet there are tents of overflowing sick people outside several major hospitals, refrigerated trucks in NYC hospital parking lots to hold dead bodies because the morgues are full, and one NYC hospital just reported their first death due to care rationing (i.e., a ventilator could have saved the patient but they were all in use.)

But yeah, man. It's just like the flu.

henry quirk · 04-03-2020, 03:13 PM

But yeah, man. It's just like the flu.

Goin' by the numbers: Fu Manflu doesn't even measure up to a mediocre flu.

tents of overflowing sick people outside several major hospitals, refrigerated trucks in NYC hospital parking lots to hold dead bodies because the morgues are full, and one NYC hospital just reported their first death due to care rationing (i.e., a ventilator could have saved the patient but they were all in use.)

Sounds to me like a whole whack of elected and appointed employees in NY didn't do, aren't doin', their jobs right.

That's called incompetence: the real public health crisis.

sexobon · 04-03-2020, 01:53 PM

They didn't prepare. They were lulled into a false sense of security by the myth that an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Didn't work for The Big Apple.

BigV · 04-03-2020, 03:16 PM

But you can't be specific, right?

Who failed, what action was wrong, can you identify any of "the whole whack" so that others can learn from this mistake?

henry quirk · 04-03-2020, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigV

But you can't be specific, right?

Who failed, what action was wrong, can you identify any of "the whole whack" so that others can learn from this mistake?

I don't live in NY, I live in Louisiana, I'll trust the voters of NY to sort the wheat from chaff.

BigV · 04-03-2020, 03:23 PM

But even from that distance you're clear that a whole whack of public servants aren't doing their jobs right.

Huh.

henry quirk · 04-03-2020, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

But even from that distance you're clear that a whole whack of public servants aren't doing their jobs right.

Huh.

Then explain why there are...

tents of overflowing sick people outside several major hospitals, refrigerated trucks in NYC hospital parking lots to hold dead bodies because the morgues are full, and (why) one NYC hospital just reported their first death due to care rationing (i.e., a ventilator could have saved the patient but they were all in use.)

I'm all eyes.

Undertoad · 04-03-2020, 03:23 PM

Corpses Lie For Days As Ecuador Struggles To Keep Up With COVID-19 Deaths

xoxoxoBruce · 04-03-2020, 11:45 PM

I don't think Johns Hopkins would lie, but I seriously doubt they or anyone else can get accurate numbers at this point. I just read this afternoon several people in China claim the government undercounted deaths by at least 40,000. Seems a lot of governments are doing that to make themselves look better.

04-01-2020, 01:56 PM	#1
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04-01-2020, 06:57 PM	#4
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I want Mike Pence to be my hype man. He's just as impervious to direct questions as Kellyanne Conway, but prettier. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

04-02-2020, 06:16 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Pretty gay for the VP! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

04-03-2020, 12:23 PM	#6
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	from John Hopkins Infections COVID-19: Approximately 1,026,974 cases worldwide; 245,573 cases in the U.S. as of Apr. 3, 2020. Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year. Deaths COVID-19: Approximately 53,975 deaths reported worldwide; 6,058 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 3, 2020. Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year. __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

04-03-2020, 12:39 PM	#7
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	And yet there are tents of overflowing sick people outside several major hospitals, refrigerated trucks in NYC hospital parking lots to hold dead bodies because the morgues are full, and one NYC hospital just reported their first death due to care rationing (i.e., a ventilator could have saved the patient but they were all in use.) But yeah, man. It's just like the flu. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

04-03-2020, 03:13 PM	#8
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	But yeah, man. It's just like the flu. Goin' by the numbers: Fu Manflu doesn't even measure up to a mediocre flu. tents of overflowing sick people outside several major hospitals, refrigerated trucks in NYC hospital parking lots to hold dead bodies because the morgues are full, and one NYC hospital just reported their first death due to care rationing (i.e., a ventilator could have saved the patient but they were all in use.) Sounds to me like a whole whack of elected and appointed employees in NY didn't do, aren't doin', their jobs right. That's called incompetence: the real public health crisis. __________________ like the other guy sez: 'not really back, blah-blah-blah...'

04-03-2020, 01:53 PM	#9
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	They didn't prepare. They were lulled into a false sense of security by the myth that an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Didn't work for The Big Apple.

04-03-2020, 03:16 PM	#10
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	But you can't be specific, right? Who failed, what action was wrong, can you identify any of "the whole whack" so that others can learn from this mistake? __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

04-03-2020, 03:23 PM	#12
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	But even from that distance you're clear that a whole whack of public servants aren't doing their jobs right. Huh. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

04-03-2020, 03:23 PM	#14
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Corpses Lie For Days As Ecuador Struggles To Keep Up With COVID-19 Deaths

04-03-2020, 11:45 PM	#15
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I don't think Johns Hopkins would lie, but I seriously doubt they or anyone else can get accurate numbers at this point. I just read this afternoon several people in China claim the government undercounted deaths by at least 40,000. Seems a lot of governments are doing that to make themselves look better. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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