Gulf coast oil spill - Page 8

jinx · 05-31-2010, 09:44 PM

BP should be required to hire everyone that shows up for a clean up job until its done.

Griff · 06-01-2010, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jinx

BP should be required to hire everyone that shows up for a clean up job until its done.

right on

classicman · 05-31-2010, 10:44 PM

I agree that they should pay, but perhaps this is something that our Gov't should be coordinating. Since they believe, or say anyway, that BP has more expertise in the plugging/sealing/containing... whatever.

classicman · 06-01-2010, 07:59 AM

No question about it. The only excuse I have heard is they are requiring people to have bio-hazard training. OK, Don't the Armed Forces have that? Get some of them in there.

GunMaster357 · 06-01-2010, 08:56 AM

At home, in Brittany, when a super tanker goes to the coast, whoever wants to lend a hand is welcome.

The only thing asked is that you wear protective gear (boots, gloves, etc...), but nothing hazmat-like. And, of course, the army is there to help.

classicman · 06-01-2010, 09:23 AM

Makes perfect sense to me. I still don't understand what the heck is taking SO LONG to have people there on the ground or to allow them to build berms to protect the coastline - especially if this is gonna continue to leak into August.

GunMaster357 · 06-01-2010, 10:00 AM

And we have an enormous advantage: a big rocky coast.

Rocks are a lot easier to clean than marshes, mangroves, etc...

We also have very powerful tides with waves that wash the rocks where we cannot gain access, little bit after little bit.

classicman · 06-01-2010, 10:03 AM

Even more reason to have had them there and ready.

GunMaster357 · 06-01-2010, 10:57 AM

However, every it happens, you can expect the usual SNAFU during the first few days since the spill comes from a boat and impacts directly on the coast.

I'm a bit surprised that it's not better organized on this event, they had quite a few days to do it while the spill was still at sea.

Of course, since BP isn't able or maybe don't want to give precise numbers it's difficult to prepare. And let's not forget about juridiction battles.

From my very limited knowledge of american organizations, I think that FEMA should be in charge but may be I'm wrong. Is that the case?

I almost forgot that it is also spanning over several states.

classicman · 06-01-2010, 11:08 AM

I haven't really heard squat about/from FEMA. I'm sure they are involved though. Seems like the Coast Guard are the ones doing most of the talking.

Spexxvet · 06-02-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

I haven't really heard squat about/from FEMA. I'm sure they are involved though...

They don't want to waste money, we're taxed enough, already!

classicman · 06-02-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

They don't want to waste money, we're taxed enough, already!

If BP is paying for it, what difference does it make?

Spexxvet · 06-02-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

If BP is paying for it, what difference does it make?

None. In fact, the fed gov should pad the bill!

Shawnee123 · 06-02-2010, 01:00 PM

thnort

classicman · 06-02-2010, 02:18 PM

Then wtf is your point?

05-31-2010, 09:44 PM	#1
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	BP should be required to hire everyone that shows up for a clean up job until its done. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

05-31-2010, 10:44 PM	#3
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I agree that they should pay, but perhaps this is something that our Gov't should be coordinating. Since they believe, or say anyway, that BP has more expertise in the plugging/sealing/containing... whatever. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-01-2010, 07:59 AM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	No question about it. The only excuse I have heard is they are requiring people to have bio-hazard training. OK, Don't the Armed Forces have that? Get some of them in there. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-01-2010, 08:56 AM	#5
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	At home, in Brittany, when a super tanker goes to the coast, whoever wants to lend a hand is welcome. The only thing asked is that you wear protective gear (boots, gloves, etc...), but nothing hazmat-like. And, of course, the army is there to help. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

06-01-2010, 09:23 AM	#6
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Makes perfect sense to me. I still don't understand what the heck is taking SO LONG to have people there on the ground or to allow them to build berms to protect the coastline - especially if this is gonna continue to leak into August. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-01-2010, 10:00 AM	#7
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	And we have an enormous advantage: a big rocky coast. Rocks are a lot easier to clean than marshes, mangroves, etc... We also have very powerful tides with waves that wash the rocks where we cannot gain access, little bit after little bit. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

06-01-2010, 10:03 AM	#8
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Even more reason to have had them there and ready. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-01-2010, 10:57 AM	#9
GunMaster357 Professor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Brest (FRANCE) Posts: 1,837	However, every it happens, you can expect the usual SNAFU during the first few days since the spill comes from a boat and impacts directly on the coast. I'm a bit surprised that it's not better organized on this event, they had quite a few days to do it while the spill was still at sea. Of course, since BP isn't able or maybe don't want to give precise numbers it's difficult to prepare. And let's not forget about juridiction battles. From my very limited knowledge of american organizations, I think that FEMA should be in charge but may be I'm wrong. Is that the case? I almost forgot that it is also spanning over several states. __________________ "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." - Ambrose Bierce

06-01-2010, 11:08 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I haven't really heard squat about/from FEMA. I'm sure they are involved though. Seems like the Coast Guard are the ones doing most of the talking. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

06-02-2010, 01:00 PM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	thnort __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-02-2010, 02:18 PM	#15
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Then wtf is your point? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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