The Obamanation

[sugarpop]

[quote=TheMercenary;595104]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

But yet you want to make a big deal out of 2 incidents from all of his numerous speaking events. This ain't Disney Land.

I find it hard to believe that you think it is OK to go where the president, ANY PRESIDENT, is going to be while carrying a weapon. I can only imagine what would have happened if a liberal had tried to do that when Bush was president. Really. People were being arrested for their fucking T-SHIRTS when Bush was prez.

Sure, just like he knows Porn when he sees it. He is still a dick.

whateveh. So are you. (I still love you though. *smooch*)

[classicman]

Originally Posted by lookout123

you are fucking koolaid drinking imbecile. It is quite possible for a large number of Americans to have a variety of reasons (some valid, some pretty stupid) for disliking the President and/or his policies without racism being a major factor.

Here here! and to legitimatize the "Race Card" or to disregard any criticisms simply because of race is dishonest, disrespectful and pure partisan politics. Who is it that keeps bringing up race again? Oh thats right, the D's. and Rachael Maddow.

Originally Posted by lookout123

Race is the most easy to grasp tool the politicians use to separate us from each other. Some people are more susceptible to the idiocy than others.

Example ... sugarpop

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I find it hard to believe that you think it is OK to go where the president, ANY PRESIDENT, is going to be while carrying a weapon.

IS this something new? Were there changes in the laws? Did Obama or the house suddenly allow people to carry guns to Presidential events? ... whats that? no? Oh, then shut up.

[richlevy]

Originally Posted by classicman

IS this something new? Were there changes in the laws? Did Obama or the house suddenly allow people to carry guns to Presidential events? ... whats that? no? Oh, then shut up.

As far as I know, it IS something new. Just because there isn't a law against it doesn't make it less disturbing. Considering the range of modern handguns, having them that close is tempting fate.

I agree with Sugarpop that during the last administration there were crackdowns on protesters based on the signs/t-shirts they had with them. Why do we feel safe to put time and place restrictions on the First Amendment and have none on the Second Amendment? I we can have 'free speech' zones miles away from events, why can't we have 'open carry' zones out of gunshot? Noone ever got killed by being yelled at, but we've 3 attempts on presidents since Kennedy.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by richlevy

I agree with Sugarpop that during the last administration there were crackdowns on protesters based on the signs/t-shirts they had with them. Why do we feel safe to put time and place restrictions on the First Amendment and have none on the Second Amendment? I we can have 'free speech' zones miles away from events, why can't we have 'open carry' zones out of gunshot? Noone ever got killed by being yelled at, but we've 3 attempts on presidents since Kennedy.

Boy and those attempts were by who? The radical right?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by richlevy

I agree with Sugarpop that during the last administration there were crackdowns on protesters based on the signs/t-shirts they had with them.

In the interest of fairness, let's remember that Clinton started the free speech zone. Both parties hate opposing discourse. That Obama put up with armed nuts at or near his events (I have no idea how close they got to the President) shows a willingness to allow dissent at a level that can act as a safety valve. That is good politics.