Egypt and Arab States circle toilet bowl

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Oh, please explain, how are they wrong? And Cite....

Pamela Geller has states that just about every Muslim organization in the US has ties to jihadists, or the Muslim brotherhood, and has infiltrated the Obama administration, all with:

“a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions..."

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/02/03/t...dministration/

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Pamela Geller has states that just about every Muslim organization in the US has ties to jihadists, or the Muslim brotherhood, and has infiltrated the Obama administration, all with:

I don't see where there is proof that she is wrong. Please provide a citation.

Further, I don't see where she says that "just about every Muslim organization in the US has ties to jihadists, or the Muslim brotherhood, and has infiltrated the Obama administration", your link does not prove that... Please cite.

[TheMercenary]

Where are your citations about Frank Gafny?

[Fair&Balanced]

Its kinda hard to prove a negative.

Here's more:

In a recent New York Times interview, the blogger Pamela Geller leveled many serious charges against Islam; she stated that Muslims curse Jews and Christians during their five-times-a-day prayer; that the only good Muslim is a secular Muslim; and most perniciously, she said that the Qur'an has never been properly translated, insinuating that it contains dark secrets about Muslims and their religious responsibilities.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...deology/64478/

If you want to believe this crap, I doubt that anyone will change your mind.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Where are your citations about Frank Gafny?

Gafney and Geller both recently went so far as to claim the recent CPAC (conservative political action committee) meeting was infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

They are two of the ccountry's most vocal Islamophobes who see a Muslim terrorist under tw's bed.

That settles it. I've got to get some eye glasses.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't see where there is proof that she is wrong.

And Saddam also had WMDs. Same reasoning.

Good thing we wasted a $trillion on that myth. Otherwise we would not have this recession.

She is obliged to prove her claims. Especially when she does it promote hate. Why should we prove her wild speculations are wrong? Your logic also says massacring 5000 Americans in Iraq was justified because we did not prove George Jr and Cheney were lying. Total nonsense created by strawman logic. She is simply promoting the same hate that hyped fear of a Manhattan mosque. And the massacre of millions of Jews in Germany.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Gafney and Geller both recently went so far as to claim the recent CPAC (conservative political action committee) meeting was infiltrated by the Muslim Brotherhood.

Like I said, do you have a factual non-partisan citation for that?

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Like I said, do you have a factual non-partisan citation for that?

How about listening to her in her own words:

Pam Geller: CPAC Infiltrated By 'Muslim Brotherhood Activist

Her proof? Conservative Grover Norquist's wife is Muslim and they contribute to a Muslim charity.

[TheMercenary]

Do you have factual evidence to prove that elements of the Muslim Brotherhood are not involved in the direct support of CPAC?

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by tw

She is obliged to prove her claims. Especially when she does it promote hate. Why should we prove her wild speculations are wrong? Your logic also says massacring 5000 Americans in Iraq was justified because we did not prove George Jr and Cheney were lying. Total nonsense created by strawman logic. She is simply promoting the same hate that hyped fear of a Manhattan mosque. And the massacre of millions of Jews in Germany.

Its like the McCarthy red-baiting days all over again.

Make unsubstantiated charges that someone was a commie and demand that they prove they were not.

[TheMercenary]

Looks like lots of people disagree... I don't know, but you have proven yourself to be partisan enough not to be trusted as a sole source.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cpac...erhood-in-usa/

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2011/02/...rhood-at-cpac/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/wei...otherhood.aspx

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/02/da...d-at-cpac.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/13/gaffney-cpac/

Like I said, I have no idea. But given the Muslim Brotherhoods long history of supporting violence, something is up. And what you posted does not prove Gellar wrong. I lean toward not trusting the relationship between CPAC and the Muslim Brotherhood if one exists.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Its like the McCarthy red-baiting days all over again.

Make unsubstantiated charges that someone was a commie and demand that they prove they were not.

Well I know that Saddam massacred hundreds of thousands of Iraqi and Iranians. Did that make him a bad man? Are you going to defend him?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Its kinda hard to prove a negative.

Your burden....

"Muslims curse Jews and Christians"

You don't believe this???

Why? You think they are friends and want to recognize Israel as a legitimate state in the Middle East?

[TheMercenary]

Is this false? Were these things not stated?

Several accomplished military, terrorism and national security experts have long asserted that terrorists are covertly using Islamic Sharia law as a non-violent way to destroy the United States. A panel of highly regarded experts reiterated the assessment in a Saturday afternoon CPAC seminar called “The Sharia Challenge in the West.”

Former Central Intelligence Agency Director Jim Woolsey, a foreign policy specialist who has worked for both Democratic and Republican administrations, led the intriguing seminar. The United States is, not only at war with terrorists such as Al Qaeda and Hezbollah but also with those who, over the long run, want to impose Sharia law, Woolsey assured.

He defined Sharia as a “theocratic dictatorship extremely opposed to democracy” and a movement to “eliminate and destroy western civilization.” The biggest challenge in fighting it is America’s long tradition of tolerance towards all religions, he warned, pointing out that the radical Islamic group Muslim Brotherhood is largely behind the effort to bring Sharia to the U.S.

Ironically, Muslim Brotherhood affiliates sponsored a CPAC panel a day earlier to defend Islamic rights, building a mosque at Ground Zero and the overall mission of the group which is known as the parent organization of Hamas and Al Qaeda. Suhail Khan, a controversial figure with connections to Middle Eastern radicals, led the event which at times got heated. A few years ago Khan received an award from an Al Qaeda operative (Abdurahman Alamoudi) and the event was actually recorded in a video.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/about-us