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Old 01-17-2007, 09:34 PM   #16
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A lot of them voted for it - twice - including Feinstein. I suspect that the best we can hope for is chipping at it as individual outrages come to light.
Twice? I thought this was snuck into the redo, but didn't appear in the original?
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:24 PM   #17
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He is referring, I believe, to the original Patriot Act and its follow up Act (Patriot Act II?) and not the amendment Specter snuck into the renewal under cover of darkness.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:38 PM   #18
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Yeah, Specter's turd was only voted on once, but the toiletful as a whole was passed twice.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:04 AM   #19
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Just tell me which prez candidate promises to repeal it and they gets my vote.

And something else if they don't.
In that case, I will continue to pimp Ron Paul.
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Old 01-18-2007, 04:55 PM   #20
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You mean Rupaul?
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:55 PM   #21
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Nah, you're thinking of the modern GOP Ron is old school.
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Old 01-18-2007, 08:15 PM   #22
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No I meant RuPaul
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:57 PM   #23
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A depressing story.
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"Colby Vokey?" muses retired Col. Jane Siegel "Integrity almost seems like a word too small to describe him."
Says Lt. Col. Matthew Cord, "He's just one of the best."
So when Vokey announced recently that he wanted to leave the Corps, it said something troubling about the military system of justice that he's served for almost 20 years. Vokey charges that some commanders and officials in the Bush administration have abused the system of justice, and he's going to retire from the Corps May 1, 2008.
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The U.S. has imprisoned hundreds of "enemy combatants" at Guantanamo Bay in a military legal system that Vokey denounces as "horrific." Vokey saw the system first-hand when he agreed two years ago to defend a teenager there who had been charged with murdering a U.S. soldier in Afghanistan. Vokey said he knew the case would be difficult, but he discovered that the legal system at Guantanamo is a "sham."
Vokey said the military staff constantly harassed him and interfered with his defense work by making it difficult even to meet with his client or show his client the government's evidence against him. The teenager confessed to killing the soldier, but he told Vokey he confessed after being shackled for hours in excruciating positions and bombarded by screeching music and flashing lights.
FBI agents have reported seeing detainees treated in similar ways and investigators at human rights groups have reported evidence suggesting that detainees are routinely abused.
Vokey calls the system "disgraceful."
"Anytime you want to subvert the rule of law to the power of a government, you've got a very bad thing brewing," Vokey told NPR. "As an officer in the Marine Corps I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. And now we are perpetrating something that if any other country in the world was doing, we would likely step in and stop it."
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