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05-02-2004, 12:11 AM
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Larger than life and twice as ugly.
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Yup, that it is, wolf. If you read the book, it is quite the look inside the thoughts of the young trooper in this condition. The video, of course, can't go into all the different things that the book went into. However, the video is certainly not a happy "everything will be fine" thing. A DVD is out called "Two Of One". If you liked the book, get the DVD. I'm not sure if the DVD has all three videos. YES! Three. The two from "Two Of One", and a video that used to be on MTV. That one starts with Jason Robards and the boy (name?) saying -
"What is Democracy?" "It has something to do with young men killing each other, I belive." "When it comes time, would you want me to go?" "For Democracy, any man would give his only begotton son." The movie is one that you don't want to see when you're depressed. But a classic, anyway.
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We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark. I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them, I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period.   Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years Last edited by Crimson Ghost; 05-02-2004 at 10:04 PM. |
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05-02-2004, 10:27 AM
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lobber of scimitars
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I read the book when I was in high school, saw the movie in college, so I got the cultural context when "And Justice For All" was released.
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05-02-2004, 02:51 PM
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We have to go back, Kate!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Yorkshire
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Common People by Pulp
I heard this song sung in his unpreposessing style ....saw him (Jarvis) stood there on stage with his old brown chords and an even more ancient velvet jacket....a sheffield lad who doesnt look like much but somehow holds your attention as soon as he sidles onto the stage......The guy with the electric violin pretty much rocks too, but it all comes together because the lyrics are just so good.  She came from Greece, she had a thirst for knowledge She studied sculpture at Saint Martin's College That's where I caught her eye. She told me that her Dad was loaded I said "In that case I'll have a rum and coca-cola" She said "fine" And in thirty seconds time she said, "I want to live like common people I want to do whatever common people do, I want to sleep with common people I want to sleep with common people like you" Well what else could I do? I said "I'll see what I can do" I took her to a supermarket I don't know why But I had to start it somewhere So it started there. I said "Pretend you've got no money" But she just laughed And said "oh you're so funny". I said "yeah? Well I can't see anyone else smiling in here". Are you sure you want to live like common people You want to see whatever common people see You want to sleep with common people, You want to sleep with common people like me. But she didn't understand, She just smiled and held my hand. Rent a flat above a shop, Cut your hair and get a job. Smoke some fags and play some pool, Pretend you never went to school. But still you'll never get it right 'cos when you're laid in bed at night Watching roaches climb the wall If you called your Dad he could stop it all. You'll never live like common people You'll never do whatever common people do You'll never fail like common people You'll never watch your life slide out of view, And dance and drink and screw Because there's nothing else to do. Sing along with the common people, Sing along and it might just get you thru' Laugh along with the common people Laugh along even though they're laughing at you And the stupid things that you do. Because you think that poor is cool. Like a dog lying in a corner, They will bite you and never warn you Look out, they'll tear your insides out 'cos everybody hates a tourist Especially one who thinks It's all such a laugh Yeah! And the chip stains' grease Will come out in the bath You will never understand How it feels to live your life With no meaning or control And with nowhere left to go You are amazed that they exist And they burn so bright Whilst you can only wonder why Rent a flat above a shop Cut your hair and get a job Smoke some fags and play some pool Pretend you never went to school But still you'll never get it right 'cause when you're laid in bed at night Watching roaches climb the wall If you called your dad he could stop it all Yeah! You'll never live like common people You'll never do whatever common people do You'll never fail like common people You'll never watch your life slide out of view And then dance and drink and screw Because there's nothing else to do I want to live with common people like you..... Downloadable here Song download Last edited by DanaC; 05-02-2004 at 02:54 PM. |
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05-19-2004, 02:33 PM
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Person who doesn't update the user title
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America
your head’s too big because America your belly’s too big and I love you I just wish you'd stay where you is in America the land of the Free, they said and of opportunity in a Just and a Truthful way but where the President is never black or female or gay and until that day you’ve got nothing to say to me to help me believe in America it brought you the hamburger well America you know where you can shove your hamburger and don’t you wonder why in Estonia they say "hey you, you big fat pig" "you fat pig" "you fat pig" Steely-blue eyes with no love in them scan the world and a humorless smile with no warmth within greets the world and I I have got nothing to offer you just this heart deep and true which you say you don’t need see with your eyes touch with your hands please hear through your ears know in your soul please for haven’t you me with you now? and I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you I love you written by Stephen Patrick Morrissey |
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05-22-2004, 03:09 AM
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Fresh Incumbent
Join Date: May 2004
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Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup
They slither wildly as they slip away across the universe Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my open mind Possessing and caressing me Jai Guru Deva OM Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes They call me on and on across the universe Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box They tumble blindly as they make their way across the universe Jai Guru Deva OM Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Sounds of laughter shades of live are ringing through my open ears Inciting and inviting me Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns It calls me on and on Across the universe Jai Guru Deva OM Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Nothing's gonna change my world Jai Guru Deva Jai Guru Deva Jai Guru Deva Jai Guru Deva Jai Guru Deva (fade out) ~John Lennon Beauitful... |
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06-15-2004, 02:46 PM
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I can hear my ears
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Original Lyrics and Music by Danny Dill and Marijohn Wilkin
performed by the dave matthews band Ten years ago, on a cold, dark night Someone was killed beneath the town hall light There were few at the scene But they all agreed That the slayer who ran Looked a lot like me She walks these hills in a Long Black Veil She visits my grave when the night winds wail Nobody knows, nobody sees, nobody knows but me The judge said, "Son, what is your alibi? If you were somewhere else, Then you won't have to die." Well, I said not a word Though it meant my life For I'd been in the arms Of my best friend's wife Oh, she walks these hills in a Long Black Veil She visits my grave when the night winds wail Nobody knows, nobody sees, nobody knows but me Oh now, the scaffold was high Eternity is near She stood in the crowd And shed not a tear Oh, sometimes at night When the cold winds blow In a Long Black Veil She stands over my bones She walks these hills in a Long Black Veil She visits my grave when the night winds wail Nobody knows, nobody sees, nobody knows but me She walks these hills in a Long Black Veil She visits my grave when the night winds wail Nobody knows, nobody sees, nobody knows but me Nobody knows, nobody sees, nobody knows but me Nobody knows but me... Nobody knows... Nobody knows... Nobody knows... but me.
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This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan |
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06-16-2004, 06:07 AM
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Jotter of Notes
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Rich Hoax - Album "Cold Fact" Sixto Rodriguez
The moon is hanging in a purple sky Baby's sleeping while his mother sighs Talking about the rich folks The rich folks have the same jokes But they park in basic places The priest is preaching from a shallow grave Counts his money, then he paints you saved Talking `bout the young folks Young folks share the same jokes But they meet in older places So don't tell me about your success Nor your recipes for my happiness Smoke in bed, I never could digest Those illusions you claim to have going The sun is shining as it always done Coffin dust is the fate of everyone Talking about the rich folks The poor create the rich hoax And only late breast fed fools believe it |
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07-05-2004, 12:40 AM
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Come on, cat.
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area
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"Looks Like Rain"
John Perry Barlow I woke today... And felt your side of bed The covers were still warm where you'd been layin'. You were gone... My heart was filled with dread. You might not be sleepin' here again It's alright, 'cause I love you. And that's not gonna change. Run me round, make me hurt again and again. But I'll still sing you love songs Written in the letters of your name. And brave the storm to come, For it surely looks like rain. Did you ever waken to the sound Of street cats makin' love And guess from their cries You were listenin' to a fight? Well, you know... Hate's just the last thing they're thinkin' of. They're only trying to make it through the night. I only want to hold you. I don't want to tie you down. Or fence you in the lines I might have drawn. It's just that I've gotten used to Havin' you around. My landscape would be empty If you were gone. Rain, rain, go away...
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07-06-2004, 11:36 PM
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Larger than life and twice as ugly.
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Death Or Glory - Motorhead - "BASTARDS"
I saw the millions, the naked and the dead I saw the city streets running bloody red I saw a thousand bombers circle in the sky I saw the firestorm fifty stores high I saw a hundred thousand scream and burn I saw the armored wheels grind and turn Universal soldier, doomed to live to tell Fight and die forever, burn in bloody hell Death or Glory, Death or Glory March forever in the sound and fury Death or Glory, Death or Glory Blood and iron it's the same old story I held the Iron Cross, first class with the swords I marched with Hitler down the bloody road to war I was at Jutland loding 'till the gun was hot, Killed at Trafalgar without firing a shot I was at Moscow, burning in my tank I was at Shiloh, marching in the ranks I was a Sturmbannfuhrer fighting in Berlin I was a Russian Hero dying for Stalin Death or glory, Death or glory March forever in the sound and fury Death or glory, Death or glory Blood and iron it's the same old story I swung a saber and I was a young Hussar I was a Cossack, fighting for the Czar I was a Viking, Berserker from the North A Roman Gladiator murdered just for sport I was with Bonaparte I died at Waterloo I was a Frankish Knight, a Polish Jew I was a Spartan in the Trojan Wars I was a warrior for Crazy Horse Death or Glory, Death or Glory March forever in the sound and fury Death or Glory, Death or Glory The Loner Survivor but no comfort for me Death or Glory, Death or Glory Executioner, Judge and Jury Death or Glory, Death or Glory Blood and iron it's the same old story Auf Stehen!!!
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We must all go through a rite of passage. It must be physical, it must be painful, and it must leave a mark. I have no knowledge of the events which you are describing, and if I did have knowledge of them, I would be unable to discuss them with you now or at any future period. Don't waste your time always searching for those wasted years |
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07-17-2004, 05:47 PM
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The White Rapper
Join Date: Jul 2004
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The Message by Dr. Dre
Many people say that rap has no meaning except for unnecessary references to violence, drugs, money and dehumanzing woman. In some senses its true, but cases like these lyrics, people may want to think again when coming to conclusions about rap:
[Dr. Dre] This one is for my brother, Tyree, R.I.P. .. {*Mary J. Blige sings in the background*} .. A message to God .. {*Mary J. Blige sings in the background*} .. [Dr. Dre] Since you finishin em early, what posessed you to start him? We made a vow - later we'll regret til death do us part Lord, I thought we was made for each other You shouldn't connect those, made to be taken away from each other Now what I'm supposed to do? I'm only half the man that I was I'll never last, cause my better half is up there with you You knew what you was doin when you made us; so with all due respect you coulda forgave him, you didn't have to take him He can take the game with him, cause he defines the word The one who puts the G in it, who you think put me in it? I'm feelin like my whole world is blinded - wonderin why Cryin, pourin out my heart, pourin out liquor behind it We fought like brothers, somethin we never should do We coulda used time spent arguin tellin the truth He had talent too - I had plans on watchin him grow Don't know what hurts more - seein him leave, or watchin him go [Mary J. Blige] Listen listen listen.. (listen) whoahh (listen) Listen listen listen.. (better listen) whoahh-oahhh-oahhh Listen listen listen.. {*harmonizing*} Listen.. mmm-mmm-mmm [Rell] + {Mary} If you wanna know why.. {why I live my life} The way that I do.. {cause I got to get this money} So don't worry about me.. {cause I know my way around} I'm just hustlin everyday, runnin this race, makin this paper [Dr. Dre] Youse a soldier, you're probably packin heat up there Met up with homies from the street, and got deep up there If you only knew the way I felt before they ruined the crew I thought I learned from Eazy, now I'm goin through it with you We lost a thug, a son, and a father I spoke to your son, the other day, and told him Uncle Dre got him The Lord must be accidentally pulling your file cause I'm still paging you, 911, straight in denial Prayin you get it, but no man can choose the card he was dealt You either quit, or you gon' play it like you get it I done been through all emotions, from in shock, to keepin a poker face to straight breakin down and showin all emotions I'm anxious to believe in real G's don't cry If that's the truth, then I'm realizin I ain't no gangsta It's just not me, but you know I'ma always ride wit you I miss you, sometimes I wish I just died wit you [Mary J. Blige] Listen listen listen.. (listen) whoahh (listen) Listen listen listen.. whoahh-oahhh-oahhh Listen listen listen.. {*harmonizing*} Listen.. eyy-eyy-eyy-yeah-yeahh [Rell] + {Mary} If you wanna know why.. {why I live my life} The way that I do.. {cause I got to get this money} So don't worry about me.. {don't worry, don't worry worry} I'm just hustlin everyday, runnin this race, makin this paper [Mary J. Blige] yeah, yeah, ahhh-oooh-oahahahhhhh.. listen.. mmmmmmmmmhmhmhmmmmmm.. if you don't know why I.. you gotta listen up right now lis-ten, lis-ten, lis-ten, lis-ten.. oooooooooh... oahahoooohhh ooooha ohhhhh lis-ten, lis-ten ahhhowooooo yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah-ehh-yeah, yeah-ooeooooh yahhooooohahhooooh listen lis-ten, children lis-ten I'm tryin to tell you somethin good Don't get caught up in the hood Yeahhh-hah, yeahhh-hah, aooooooh if you don't know why.. you gotta find out the reason why.. brother.. brother.. |
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12-10-2004, 02:30 PM
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Come on, cat.
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area
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Devil Song
When the devil comes blowing through your door
You'll know there's trouble, and he's coming back for more You better keep what is precious hidden under the floor Or you better treat it so good it will never want for more But looking back in retrospect Did you ever really get what you'd expect? Trying to rectify Got lost a little further You've been trying to justify Find out how and where it came Devil was your angel, but it's not no more The devil was your angel, when you weren't sure Do I tempt trouble to break through all these doors Just to put a face to the voice which always home? To fight for what is precious, to know what's under the floor If I could treat it so good, I swear I'd never want for more But when I found my peace There was still mistakes However painfully awaring every step I take Trying to rectify Got lost a little further Well, I've been trying to justify Find out how and where it came The devil was my angel, now I'm just not sure. To travel as my angel there's always my whore Gonna take you back down I won't feel no shame Till my dreams Are my own again Gonna take you right down, and I'll take the blame Till my dreams are my own again Here I am again Devil was my angel, now I'm just not sure To travel as my angel there's always my whore Maybe you're an angel, tried to remember you're an angel Remember you're an angel, if you're not sure
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12-10-2004, 11:50 PM
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This is a fully functional babe lair
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Akron, OH
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Dispatch: "General"
There was a decorated General with a heart of gold That likened him to all the stories he told Of past battles won and lost And legends of old A seasoned veteran in his own time. On the battlefield he gained respectful fame With many medals of bravery and stripes to his name He grew a beard as soon as he could To cover the scars on his face And always urged his men on But on the eve of great battle with the infantry in dream The old general tossed in his sleep And wrestled with its meaning He awoke from the night to tell what he had seen And walked slowly out of his tent. All the men held tall with their chests in the air With a courage in their blood And a fire in their stare It was a grey morning and they all wondered how they would fare 'Til the old general told them to go home. He said, "I have seen the others And I have discovered that this fight is not worth fighting And I've seen their mothers And I will no other to follow me where I'm going. So take a shower and shine your shoes You've got no time to lose You are young men you must be living. Take a shower and shine your shoes You've got no time to lose You are young men you must be living. Go now you are forgiven." Yeah... But the men stood fast with their guns on their shoulders Not knowing what to do with the contradicting orders The General said he would do his own duty But he would extend it no further The men could go as they pleased But not a man moved their eyes gazed straight ahead 'Til one by one they stepped back and not a word was said The old General was left with his own words Echoing in his head He then prepared to fight He said, "I have seen the others And I have discovered that this fight is not worth fighting No, and I've seen their mothers And I will no other to follow me where I'm going So take a shower and shine your shoes You've got no time to lose You are young men you must be living. Take a shower and shine your shoes You've got no time to lose You are young men you must be living. Go now you are forgiven." Yeah... Go now you are forgiven Go now you are forgiven Go now you are forgiven Go Lynard Skynard: "Simple Man" Mama told me, when I was young Come sit beside me, my only son And listen closely, to what I say. And if you do this It will help you some sunny day. Ohh take your time... Don't live too fast, Troubles will come, and they will pass. Go find a woman and you'll find love, And don't forget son, There is someone up above. (Chorus) And be a simple kind of man. Oh be somethin you'll love and understand. Baby be a simple kind of man. Won't you do this for me son, If you can? Forget your lust for the rich man's gold All that you need is in your soul, And you can do this if you try. All that I want for you my son, Is to be satisfied. (Chorus) Boy, don't you worry... you'll find yourself. Follow your heart and nothing else. And you can do this if you try. All I want for you my son, Is to be satisfied.
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12-19-2004, 03:56 PM
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Junior Master Dwellar
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Kingdom of Atlantia
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In france a skinny man
Died of a big disease with a little name. By chance his girlfriend came across a needle And soon she did the same. At home there are seventeen-year-old boys And their idea of fun Is being in a gang called the disciples High on crack, totin’ a machine gun. Time, time Hurricane Annie ripped the ceiling of a church And killed everyone inside. Turn on the telly and every other story Is tellin’ you somebody died. Sister killed her baby cuz she couldn't afford to feed it And we’re sending people to the moon. In September my cousin tried reefer for the very first time Now he’s doing horse, it’s June. Times, times It’s silly, no? When a rocket ship explodes And everybody still wants to fly? Some say a man ain’t happy Unless a man truly dies. Oh why? Oh why? Baby makes a speech, star wars fly Neighbors just shine it on. But if a night falls and a bomb falls Will anybody see the dawn? Time, times It’s silly, no? When a rocket ship explodes And everybody still wants to fly? Some say a man ain’t happy, truly Until a man truly dies. Oh why, oh why? sign o the times
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Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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12-23-2004, 08:24 AM
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still says videotape
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Don't often open up this floor
Since I handed in my gun What all these keys are for Now my tour of duty's done You got to know the switches Now you got your turn Watch and learn, junior Watch and learn Now you will get your Trouble spots Here's one from Down voodoo way Bragged he had me By the you-know-whats Very funny, you don't say The big enchilada Stealing elections Had to go down there Trash collection Got his cojones On my desk in there Made into a souvenir Set of cufflinks, nice pair The rest of him's Someplace up here Sometimes you got to Put a shoulder to the door Not so fast, junior Listen to your pa Here, son I'm handing over to you Don't crash the ambulance Whatever you do What we have here's A dung hole place Thought it was fly shit On the map Fat bastard, ugly face And the personal crap You can't move the barriers You can't mess with oil and gas Had to go down there Stick a couple Aircraft carriers In his ass Fancy dress Medals chest It's all in here For all the gigs Gas mask Bullet-proof vest All the usual rigs There'll be things they missed They didn't mention You've even Got a whistle in there For attracting attention Well, I think you're gonna Be okay, son You've had the tour, I guess These two buttons By the way This one I hope You never press Some holy fool, just watch Who's not like you or me That one's the whole Shooting match Right there It's the whole shitaree We don't forget Who put us here, jack That's page one We talk soft But carry a big stick And pack the biggest gun We don't like accidents Major or minor You don't want yourself An incident Don't ever invade china Here, son I'm handing over to you Don't crash the ambulance Here, son I'm handing over to you Don't crash the ambulance Whatever you do -Mark Knopfler
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07-13-2005, 07:06 PM
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Goon Squad Leader
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
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Brad Paisley
He Didn't Have To Be Written by - Brad Paisley & Kelley Lovelace From - Who Needs Pictures When a single mom goes out on a date with somebody new It always winds up feeling more like a job interview My momma used to wonder if she'd ever meet someone Who wouldn't find out about me and then turn around and run I met the man I call my dad when I was five years old He took my mom out to a movie and for once I got to go A few months later I remember lying there in bed I overheard him pop the question and prayed that she'd say yes And then all of a sudden Oh, it seemed so strange to me How we went from something's missing To a family Lookin' back all I can say About all the things he did for me Is I hope I'm at least half the dad That he didn't have to be I met the girl that's now my wife about three years ago We had the perfect marriage but we wanted somethin' more Now here I stand surrounded by our family and friends Crowded 'round the nursery window as they bring the baby in And now all of a sudden It seemed so strange to me How we've gone from something's missing To a family Lookin' through the glass I think about the man That's standin' next to me And I hope I'm at least half the dad That he didn't have to be Lookin' back all I can say About all the things he did for me Is I hope I'm at least half the dad That he didn't have to be Yeah, I hope I'm at least half the dad That he didn't have to be Because he didn't have to be You know he didn't have to be ©1999 EMI April Music Inc / Sea Gayle Music / Love Ranch Music ****************** These lyrics resonate powerfully with me. I know the pleasure and relief the singer feels as a child, and I know the aching desire to repay the debt as a man. I can never repay him, but I'll pay it forward to his children's children. I promise.
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