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Old 01-06-2010, 01:40 PM   #61
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The movies I like the best (and YMMV, I realize that) are visual and visceral, not cerebral. With that critera, Avatar is a fantastic movie, and "totally awesome" in the original sense of awesome.

And y'all are just sourpusses who neglect their inner child. AND there's nothing wrong with the damn font.

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Old 01-06-2010, 01:46 PM   #62
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If I wanted a "good" movie . . . I'd read a book.
What do you do when you want to hear a good song, look at an oil painting?
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Old 01-06-2010, 01:49 PM   #63
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a good story, then, if you don't like my metaphor.

I don't necessarily go to the movies for the storyline; I go for a visual, and sometimes auditory experience. Movies which do not provide that get relegated to second tier, at-home, small screen.
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:05 PM   #64
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I, too, was reluctant to see Avatar because even though I love most animated films, something about this one didn't sit right with me...something to do with the faces with those big eyes. I didn't look into the movie at all and when my husband wanted to use free tickets on the movie, even then, I declined (we saw Sherlock Holmes instead). He finally put his foot down and it was the next movie we saw and I ended up really enjoying it. I thought the effects would bother me, but I became totally immersed in them and the story. Yes, it was predictable and the ending was simply too fairy tale, but it did entertain me. At one point though, I was sitting there wondering if the audience in my theater was actually getting the message that they are part of this military/industrial complex that destroys whatever gets in its way? And always wins, unlike in this movie.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:37 PM   #65
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I like good movies, so...
Now you're just sounding snooty.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:42 PM   #66
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Of all the things I've said, one off-the-cuff comment made in jest (in reply to the immediately preceeding post) is what you're getting from this?
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:52 PM   #67
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I get that sometimes I sounds snooty in my critiques. However, does a piano player keep playing Mary Had a Little Lamb, once he's learned Mozart?
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:54 PM   #68
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RE: papyrus
Usually the Cellar is about 2-4 weeks ahead of the curve when it comes to current events. The real typeface nerds have been moaning about how crappy papyrus is for a long long time now. (like 20 dolla long time)

Anyway, Dar, put "Helvetica" on your queue and you will be entertained and gain an insight into the world of typographers and how passionate they are about something 99% of the population are/is blissfully unaware of.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:59 PM   #70
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I recently saw the movie, Shorts (Adventures of the Wishing Rock), and was amused by the typographer nerdiness. One of the kids was named, "Helvetica" -- last name Black. Thank you, Robert Rodriguez!

(also, the main character in that movie was the same kid who played young James T. Kirk in ST:AOS--the only casting misstep I could see in that movie)
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:09 PM   #71
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It seems like, among the typeface nerds, font quality is based on how few of the wrong sort of people use it, rather than any attribute of the font itself. I think Papyrus is a fine looking font, and appropriate for Avatar, and the fact that National Geographic and newsletter writers like it too doesn't diminish that for me.

It's unfortunate for anybody if something they bring in affects their enjoyment of a film, but it's not James Cameron's fault if the Na'vi are the same color as your mother-in-law's bathroom.
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It seems like, among the typeface nerds, font quality is based on how few of the wrong sort of people use it, rather than any attribute of the font itself. I think Papyrus is a fine looking font, and appropriate for Avatar, and the fact that National Geographic and newsletter writers like it too doesn't diminish that for me.

It's unfortunate for anybody if something they bring in affects their enjoyment of a film, but it's not James Cameron's fault if the Na'vi are the same color as your mother-in-law's bathroom.
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the wrong sort of people . . .
ummm. regarding fonts? You guys have anything against Times New Roman?
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:16 PM   #74
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Anyway, Dar, put "Helvetica" on your queue and you will be entertained and gain an insight into the world of typographers and how passionate they are about something 99% of the population are/is blissfully unaware of.
I'll do that, squirell. But I am not ignorant of typography. I worked at Aldus for 7 years. But I still think criticizing a movie for the font it uses is over the top. It seems to me like people congratulating each other on being the in crowd. I have yet to hear a meaningful argument against it.

It's overused? Times-Roman has been around since 1931.

It's not unreadable, it's not ugly. It may be cutesy, but it fits the movie.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:18 PM   #75
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ooh ooh font-battle!
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