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Old 10-19-2011, 10:03 PM   #1
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nwss.

I think the new Jim is a neutered shadow of his former self, who -in the absence of testosterone- lets his dick lead the way instead of his balls.

NJ? that's close enough for a lunchtime shag, no?

He's the star pupil of the "good boys are those who behave like girls" school of thought. WTG. Let's make an honor roll bumper sticker for his mom.

"Being a hammer is easier"?

Telling the truth is easier than lying....
Ok then.


All this shit right here? You stand by this assessment? And you're my friend too?
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:01 PM   #2
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You are calling me a liar, monster? Why?
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:15 PM   #3
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You are calling me a liar, monster? Why?
no. hypocritical and weak.

you mean the truth is easier than lying comment?

It was a demonstration that the hardest option is not always the best/morally correct one. One doesn't always have to suffer to be beautiful.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:35 PM   #4
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no. hypocritical and weak.

you mean the truth is easier than lying comment?

It was a demonstration that the hardest option is not always the best/morally correct one. One doesn't always have to suffer to be beautiful.

yeah...that last part sounds like bullshit. You called me a liar. I never lied. I was trying to make peace...

Yes...i was interested in possibly meeting brill in meat space. Was that my dick? How very base of you to illuminate that. Thanks. Youre a great friend.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:51 PM   #5
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I hope my posting here right now doesn't do more harm than good. But I just needed to say that I am very very sorry for everything that transpired. I take my share of the blame in this as well. There are many things I shouldn't have said or done during this.

Please don't be mad at Jim. I re-read the PM with the list and it was all said in a joking manner. I had received what I perceived to be a not very nice PM about my signature. Prior to that I had started to feel a little unwelcome here and then I get that PM. Jim was just trying to be a good guy and make me feel welcome. That's all. He didn't mean any harm to any of you. After that then some not so nice things were said after I agreed about having avatars. I wasn't trying to change this place, I was just stating my opinion on it. So once I saw some things that I perceived as mean, things escalated. I guess I felt backed into a corner and I came out scratching.

So please, don't let this ruin any of the friendships you have all acquired over the years. They are true friendships if your feeling are hurt and shouldn't be dropped without trying. We all need friends in this world.

I won't post here anymore because I think too many here have a bad taste in their mouths with me now, and that's ok. But please, don't let this get in the way of your friendships. I never ever intended for any of this to happen. I mean that.

Take care.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:26 PM   #6
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I hope my posting here right now doesn't do more harm than good. But I just needed to say that I am very very sorry for everything that transpired. I take my share of the blame in this as well. There are many things I shouldn't have said or done during this.

Please don't be mad at Jim. I re-read the PM with the list and it was all said in a joking manner. I had received what I perceived to be a not very nice PM about my signature. Prior to that I had started to feel a little unwelcome here and then I get that PM. Jim was just trying to be a good guy and make me feel welcome. That's all. He didn't mean any harm to any of you. After that then some not so nice things were said after I agreed about having avatars. I wasn't trying to change this place, I was just stating my opinion on it. So once I saw some things that I perceived as mean, things escalated. I guess I felt backed into a corner and I came out scratching.

So please, don't let this ruin any of the friendships you have all acquired over the years. They are true friendships if your feeling are hurt and shouldn't be dropped without trying. We all need friends in this world.

I won't post here anymore because I think too many here have a bad taste in their mouths with me now, and that's ok. But please, don't let this get in the way of your friendships. I never ever intended for any of this to happen. I mean that.

Take care.
Now that's the post that makes me hope you'll eventually come back. Hell of a way to get to know us better, though......
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:20 PM   #7
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yeah...that last part sounds like bullshit. You called me a liar. I never lied. I was trying to make peace...

Yes...i was interested in possibly meeting brill in meat space. Was that my dick? How very base of you to illuminate that. Thanks. Youre a great friend.
I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:24 PM   #8
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I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.
I'm trying to see things from other people's pot of view before I judge them. I've been knocked around a bit because I have failed to do that in the past. You did call me a liar.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:35 PM   #9
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I didn't call you a liar. I think you're trying hard to be something that you're not. I am a great friend. The kind you don't always appreciate.

This isn't the time to be channeling Annie Wilkes.

I'M JOKING! but it did remind me of the movie, Misery.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:02 PM   #10
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I don't think Jim is being led by his dick. That had nothing to do with what my post was about.

My perspective is that he's trying to be more understanding of other people's faults, and I think that's a good thing. We could all do that once in a while. none of us are perfect.

Don't get all huffy monster. Things were just getting better between us.

C'mere...give us a kiss.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:25 PM   #11
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I don't think Jim is being led by his dick. That had nothing to do with what my post was about.

My perspective is that he's trying to be more understanding of other people's faults, and I think that's a good thing. We could all do that once in a while. none of us are perfect.

Don't get all huffy monster. Things were just getting better between us.

C'mere...give us a kiss.
I really should have only quoted the last sentence of your post. The rest is irrelevant to mine. Understanding people's fault is fine. Excusing them just because we understand them... not so much. ymmv.

I'm a mom. I'm not alone in this. Many dwellars will know this feeling. I try to be momma bear for my kids, because that's my job, but I am sometimes amazed by how much other moms will defend and excuse their kids' totally unacceptable behaviour. Like momma bear gone bad. I just can't momma bear to that level. if my kid does something bad (and this is not hypothetical) I will be there for them and defend them to the best of my ability, but i will never lie and say they were innocent when they were not. That to me feels the same as saying, OK, we understand the faults, so let's excuse them and carry on as normal.

Huffy? Nope. It really isn't worth the effort it would take me. Disappointed? Yup.
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:32 PM   #12
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I really should have only quoted the last sentence of your post. The rest is irrelevant to mine. Understanding people's fault is fine. Excusing them just because we understand them... not so much. ymmv.

I'm a mom. I'm not alone in this. Many dwellars will know this feeling. I try to be momma bear for my kids, because that's my job, but I am sometimes amazed by how much other moms will defend and excuse their kids' totally unacceptable behaviour. Like momma bear gone bad. I just can't momma bear to that level. if my kid does something bad (and this is not hypothetical) I will be there for them and defend them to the best of my ability, but i will never lie and say they were innocent when they were not. That to me feels the same as saying, OK, we understand the faults, so let's excuse them and carry on as normal.

Huffy? Nope. It really isn't worth the effort it would take me. Disappointed? Yup.
I don't see why anyone should need to feel like a mum to anyone here. All he said was he kinda liked BD in the first place and that he was trying to figure out why she'd gone all weird. Why should anyone need to take it further than that? Why do people have to take the next step and 'go all weird' themselves? Isn't it an indication of strength if one is able to avoid becoming what we criticize?

I dunno. I just don't see why it's so wrong of him not to 'be a hammer' to this newby who for all we know, might have very similar issues to many of us here. Does that mean she deserves less understanding? *shrugs*

eta: When people change their attitude or things like that, (bear with me, I'm just getting this idea sorted in my head) our expectations aren't always ready for it, so we get cranky about our own expectations not being met. Maybe this isn't jim's issue at all?
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:34 PM   #13
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Old 10-19-2011, 08:46 PM   #14
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I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.

You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:44 PM   #15
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I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS A SOAP OPERA.

You've just used up three seasons worth of plot in one bloody thread. The writers will freak. Gotta stretch the drama out, peeps.
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