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Old 10-11-2020, 04:58 PM   #1
Undertoad
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The Cellar is closing at the end of the year (sooner, if the new location is stable)

...save your buffers


Since many people don't check the tagline, that is the official word.

An alternate forum for Dwellars is being considered. If anything becomes available it will be posted.
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Old 10-11-2020, 05:06 PM   #2
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This is profoundly unfortunate.
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Old 10-11-2020, 07:05 PM   #3
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So it's for certain. What is a buffer?
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Old 10-11-2020, 07:43 PM   #4
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It's the space you thought you had just before you smash your knuckles.

what have we learned?????
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Old 10-11-2020, 11:03 PM   #5
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Unhappy

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An alternate forum for Dwellars is being considered. If anything becomes available it will be posted.
I dont wanna lose this site because of 1 member!!!!

I DONT WANT AN ALTERNATIVE SITE ON CRAPPY NEWER SOFTWARE....... (Xenforo for example) -- I think this is very sad Flint has caused this to happen........

I hope Undertoad calms down before 31 December..... We are running out of good VBB sites!!
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Old 10-11-2020, 11:07 PM   #6
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I think this is very sad Flint has caused this to happen........
Trump, is that you?
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Old 10-12-2020, 12:45 AM   #7
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Ah man!!
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Old 10-12-2020, 07:02 AM   #8
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Still, seriously, what does "save your buffers" mean?
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Old 10-12-2020, 08:39 AM   #9
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I dont wanna lose this site because of 1 member!!!!

I DONT WANT AN ALTERNATIVE SITE ON CRAPPY NEWER SOFTWARE....... (Xenforo for example) -- I think this is very sad Flint has caused this to happen........

I hope Undertoad calms down before 31 December..... We are running out of good VBB sites!!

First off, Dude.... it's not because of ONE member.... and let's not forget who brought the spamming newbie in that set Flint's spamhammer spinning. Not really fair of you to try to lay the whole thing at his feet.



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Old 10-12-2020, 10:13 AM   #10
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"The world is coming to an end - save your buffers" was a cookie for a long time. It's a joke from computer history, when if your computer crashed it meant the loss of the data in cache memory, ie. the buffers, which could be traumatic if it happened at the wrong time.

Operating system history: The idea of "orderly shutdown" was built into Linux, but not so much into Windows. the idea was that Windows could die at any moment and not become confused, because it was shitty and crashed all the time and so a crash had to not be as traumatic as it was. Linux needed buffers because it was performing things for everybody, not just for one user. So it didn't crash so much, and if you were turning it off, it would carefully write all the data in memory to disk before shutting down.

Since Windows wasn't caching things for everybody, it meant that Windows was slow at doing server-type stuff -- at the moment when the Internet was coming online, and suddenly server type stuff became wildly important. (Of course, in Windows you would lose documents and spreadsheets in a crash, because the ability to save was left up to the applications, and autosave was cutting-edge technology and they've only just recently figured out that it is a good idea.)

Cellar is performing an orderly shutdown.
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:21 AM   #11
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Thank you.


For everything.
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:31 AM   #12
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Its very sad to lose such a good site

And we arer left with crap........
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Old 10-12-2020, 10:37 AM   #13
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I'm genuinely rocked by this. It's like the foundations of my life are shifting.

Thank you Undertoad - I am beyond grateful for the community you helped start and then maintained for decades. I hope (if there is no change in decision) that you will join the new community (unencumbered by responsibility) so that we can stay in touch.

The Cellar is a strange place - it isnt just another message board, just another online community - it is a family: a thoroughly dysfunctional family with various aunts and uncles feuding and a fist fight at most family gatherings, but a family nonetheless.

I would like to think that the family is relocating rather than dying out.

Regardless though - it is the end of an era.

This site is older than your average tech billionaire
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Old 10-12-2020, 02:05 PM   #14
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Its very sad to lose such a good site

And we arer left with crap........
Dude, there are many good sites out there, just find them...it's a hit and miss and I have been and am on that path.....and sites that every other word isn't Fing.....

Makes me wonder if you've really gotten a lot of good healthy help and info here?

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Old 10-12-2020, 02:13 PM   #15
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But those other sites won't pay attention to you as much as the attention you get when you stir things up here, right?
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