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Old 12-24-2004, 12:45 PM   #1
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My trip to the gay bar. The reason why I have homophobic tendencies.

San Francisco is known for its hilly cityscapes, destructive earthquakes, Detective Harry Callahan, and the Grateful Dead, among many other very popular people places and things. But the thing that is exclusively unique to this great city is its unusually high concentration of gay residents in fact San Francisco is arguably the gay capitol of the world.

But further south down the coast of California, Just outside of La, there is Orange county, perhaps the rainbow flag waving rival to San Francisco's global homo-distinction.

I spent several years living and working in Orange county which acclimated me to living around and observing gay lifestyle. My observations helped form an early acceptance of people living alternative lifestyles. I considered myself quite hep and felt I had developed a nearly flawless gaydar, that is until I was asked out and accepted a date from a gay man.


Bob, a coworker, invited me out for a drink one Friday night after work. I was only eighteen but a friend of mine and also a coworker, lent me his ID. I had been to bars before but being only eighteen I had not yet made the rounds that one in his early twenties does, So I was unaware of what bars were cool, dangerous, boring etc. I was depending on the older more experienced Bob to choose the establishment.


He chose a bar called the Flame Room(I shit you not) which was located at a former K-mart store in Huntington Beach.

In a big Gay Metropolitan area what better place for a big gay bar than a former K-mart store?

And there could have been no better name this establishment could have chose, The Flame room indeed.

You may be thinking: hell, anyone with a 5th grade education would be able to determine a bar called the flame room was most likely a gay bar. Well, I don't have a defense for that statement other than I never suspected Bob was gay, I was excited about all the "older" women I would be encountering, and I wanted to get shitfaced hammered really bad.

My goal upon entering this extremely crowded bar was the same as every other young man> mainline it to the juice bar and get working on a brain cell obliterating Friday night drunk.

Once I had made it to the bar and ordered my drink, was when I began to scope the place out for hot 21+ year old women and realized the chances of finding a woman in this joint was pretty damn slim. The place was wall to wall men.

The preferred attire consisted of t-shirts several sizes too small and extremely tight leather pants> So tight that you could tell what religion each guy was.

It confirmed that men could in fact be floozies.
There were also several men who were shoeless. I don't know what that was all about, apparently it was some flamer trend. There are a lot of things that were peculiar to say the least, but the fear of the unknown overpowered my curiosity.


I looked at Bob with shock that I could feel jumping off my face and he was looking back at me with an expression that seemed to say: yes, this is a gay bar, and I brought you here, so yes again, I am a gay man and I am hoping so much that you don't freak out.

His hopes were dashed. I didn't totally freak out but I did say:

"what the fuck Bob? thanks for bringing me to a fuckin faggot bar!

"Shhh, its not a faggot bar"

"Well what would you call it then"

"A bar, that's all"

"Yea, A bar full of cocksmokers"

"You think I'm queer? That's why you brought me here? Do I look like a queer? Hey bob, the fact is I'm not gay but thanks for potentially giving me a fucking complex about it, this is the best way you could come up with for finding out if I was a snake handler?"


The point I need to interject here is Bob is really quite nervous at this point. Some of what he is feeling and projecting is of course embarrassment. I guess to him asking me out to a gay bar and getting my undesirable reaction was like a straight guy misreading what he perceives to be signs a girl is flirting with him but when he asks her out, she laughs at him. But what Bob is really uncomfortable about is my use of derogatory homosexual epithets and the reason he is so uncomfortable about it is because fags in a gay bar don't really remind you of Richard Simmons or Andy Dick they are not floating around inches above the floor exchanging makeup tips with each other they are some big, badass looking dudes that could easily hold their own in a brawl...they just happen to take it up the ass.

And like I said, this joint was packed. Another misconception about gay men is they are like women as far as their personalities and disposition. Yes there are queens, but gay men are predominantly just as aggressive and ready to throw down at the drop of a hat as straight men.


My tirade of homosexual epithets attracted a whole group of pissed off butt nuts.

They were saying things to Bob. Mostly things like : "is this your paper boy?"
"take him home and teach him some manners, then bring him back so we can all have a turn with him"
"I think you pulled him out of the closet too soon"


Now my anger toward Bob turned into a fight for the survival of my manhood against all the innuendo these fairies were directing at me.



HEY! Im not gay! This asshole brought me here, I didn't know this was a gay bar"

"(sarcastically)sure you're not gay honey"

"IM NOT GAY"

I started making my way to the exit. I know what it feels like to me a female navy midshipmen. I walked through 25 yards of roaring laughter and men blowing kisses at me while getting my ass and balls groped.

"See you next Friday night sweetie" was the last thing I heard as I pushed out the door.


Homophobic indeed.

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Old 12-27-2004, 06:43 AM   #2
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See, if you had just shrugged and turned your attention back to your drink(s), you wouldn't have been laughed out by a crowd of people you're afraid of.
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:20 AM   #3
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A) this sounds like a story designed to find out if your audience are homophobes.

B) i met my wife in a gay bar. i'm not homophobic.
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:46 AM   #4
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See, if you had just shrugged and turned your attention back to your drink(s), you wouldn't have been laughed out by a crowd of people you're afraid of.
Sure, but most 18 year old boys, with raging hormones and great expectations of whore moans, wouldn't do that.
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:52 AM   #5
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Here we go again...

Even includes the Big Gay Al pic at the end.
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Old 12-28-2004, 03:29 PM   #6
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What is the deal with this dude?
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Old 12-28-2004, 10:37 PM   #7
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What is the deal with this dude?
That's pretty simple. He posts stories he writes. They may have been posted elsewhere. They are written in such a way as to elicit reactions that are more likely from the gut than the mind. By not being politically correct, stepping on toes, rattling cages they might draw heavy fire from, in this case, queers or homophobes, and in all cases the politically correct.
When you throw out the bait you never know what will rise from the depths.
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Old 12-29-2004, 01:49 AM   #8
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One would appreciate either fresh bait, or links to old material.
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Old 12-29-2004, 12:16 PM   #9
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One would appreciate either fresh bait, or links to old material.

Yes, it seems it is just one.

It also seems like you have no idea what spam is.

You are quite the snoopy detective...in fact i think i will refer to you as snoop hoggy hog from now on.



on a side note this is the error message i got when attenoting to upload the original. I had to resize the photo so it would fat.
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Old 12-29-2004, 12:26 PM   #10
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Wow, not only can he cut 'n paste, he can *GASP* link too!

Let's see, Plagerist, Spammer, Cut 'n Paste afficianado, Master of grade school humor that wasn't funny then either, and now soon to be a cloud of ions swirling in the cold, dark, forgotten nether regions of deep cyberspace.

Blindfold? Cigarette?
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Old 12-29-2004, 12:22 PM   #11
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Bye Mick. I removed the image (of Wolf promoting Plastic Forks, which one can easily find if one paws through her links) and banned you.

Find another sandbox to play in. There are thousands of them on the Internet.
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Old 12-29-2004, 12:27 PM   #12
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Bye Mick.
You know, I would have looked a lot smarter if you had waited four more minutes.
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Old 12-29-2004, 01:49 PM   #13
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Bye Mick. I removed the image (of Wolf promoting Plastic Forks, which one can easily find if one paws through her links) and banned you.

Find another sandbox to play in. There are thousands of them on the Internet.


Well, thousands is quite an under-estimation.

I guess that it is ok for me to receive abuse but not ok to retaliate. Whatever. I felt that this site was designed well and had great features...very user friendly. And I also felt that after I received my cellar baptism by fire that I would be able to share stories and thoughts with open minded people and create friendships.

However, if the skin of the average cellar user is as thin as yours then thank you for banning me before I developed any friendships. I make it a point to surround my self with strong, confident and tolerant people.

So see ya...you all keep in touch with yourselves,y ahear

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Old 12-29-2004, 02:15 PM   #14
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Hmm. With that over with and out of the way...

i met my wife in a gay bar. i'm not homophobic.

I'm convinced gay bars are nothing more than normal bars with a cleaner atmosphere and have a slightly higher percentage of homosexuals. I've never experienced anything like the hitting-on horrors described in the cut-n-paste story nor have I ever heard of other straight people running out screaming in terror.

No place serving good liquor could ever be that bad.
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Old 12-29-2004, 02:44 PM   #15
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One would appreciate either fresh bait, or links to old material.




Yes, it seems it is just one.

It also seems like you have no idea what spam is.

You are quite the snoopy detective...in fact i think i will refer to you as snoop hoggy hog from now on.



on a side note this is the error message i got when attenoting to upload the original. I had to resize the photo so it would fat.
snoop hoggy hog.jpg:
File Too Large. Limit for this filetype is 122.1 KB. Your file is 147.2 KB.
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