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Old 09-15-2006, 06:49 PM   #1
ladyangevil
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LOL Spexxvet :p

Elspode...well..the rules apply to all animals we eat(actually we're allowed to eat livestocks only) ..so I don't know if you know,but here in my country and some others, shops selling food,restaurants,etc must get food that are certified by the authorities(good to eat-proper sacrifice,etc.)..if there are signs in the restaurants saying otherwise..we're not supposed to eat them (sin) but of course there are some who just don't care.hehe.

so that's why,when we travel overseas (non-Muslim dominated countries) we have to be extra careful on where to eat...

was in UK once, thankfully, M restaurants are not that hard to find in big cities...but went we went to Paris,we were lucky to find an Arabian restaurant not far from our hotel.hehe.or else,we'd be vegetarians for the whole trip

Quoting you
"Now, throwing live little bunnies and cats into a fire while intoning dark chants just for the supposed extra "power" or pure shock value...that, I'm gonna have a problem with. You sacrifice it, you eat it."

I agree.We are not allowed to hunt for sport.Personally, that's just horribly cruel and a waste

ok I'll just shut up now
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:29 PM   #2
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IOtD has covered the ritual sacrifices for Eid several times. The things you mentioned have been mentioned before, occasionally, but the sight of mass slaughtering.... the streets and squares running red with blood.... is a strong image.

Like you, most people are repulsed by it, even if they understand the customs behind it. Probably not because it's done, but where it's done, on the street rather than in a slaughter house.
Maybe it's just, "out of sight, out of mind", makes it easier to cope with, for us who see meat as something wrapped up at the supermarket.
My grandparents slaughtered most of the meat they ate, whereas my parents did not. I suspect my grandparents would not be as shocked by the pictures as my parents might be. My parents, seeing their parents do it for the 20 years they lived with them, might be less shocked than myself, since I only witnessed it a few times each year. Each generation getting further from the live animals.

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I don't know if you know,but here in my country and some others, shops selling food,restaurants,etc must get food that are certified by the authorities(good to eat-proper sacrifice,etc.)..if there are signs in the restaurants saying otherwise..we're not supposed to eat them (sin) but of course there are some who just don't care.hehe.
OK, so you can't eat it unless it's your version of kosher. I wonder how the rules compare?

ladyangevil, don't shut up. We're glad your here and glad your sharing your information, ideas and opinions. We may not always agree...... hell, we may never agree, but it's never bad to get another point of view. Thanks for coming.
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:17 AM   #3
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True true...

As for myself...I've never been to an actual slaughter/sacrifice...but I've seen it on the news once and I just changed the channel because of the sounds...and the blood...can't even stand to see my own blood ...haha... but I know and I was taught it was done for a reason..I still eat them anyway...

The rules are pretty much the same..I think...there are two kinds of animals we are forbidden to eat/touch - dogs & pigs...Dogs are pretty usual around here(mostly strays) but not pigs...so everytime we encounter a dog..we'd just avoid them..if we ever come into contact with these animals..we have to "cleanse" ourselves by washing the body part with soil & water..

However...there are some known Muslims who touch dogs..and even keep them as pets...not here though...but in the UK(my friend's landlord who's a Muslim)...so kind of confusing there...I'm also not sure...maybe their teaching is different...but I have a dream (!!huh..enter martin luther king here...hehe)that everyone out there not think that all Muslims are the same...(what am I trying to say here..)so I hope we don't get judged just by one thing one other person/group does...

especially with all the recent/past political issues happening out there...as in Christianity...suicide is sinful right?so it's the same in my religion..it's a very bad sin...and also..when in a war...we're not supposed to attack/kill civilians...women..children...even rationally that's just wrong...so it kind of hurts us when we went to a certain place in the west...people stare at us as if we're evil...sigh..but that's just the way how the world goes...

i mean..few years ago..if there are foreigners here...people would stare at them but in a...curious way...you know...like they've never seen one before...but now..there are quite a lot(expats & quite a few tourists as well)...i'd bump into one everytime i go out...so instead of staring out of curiousity..we'd just ogled at the guys(hardly though..since most expats are ...quite old for my age)...haha...and if there was news about a navy ship stopping by our port...FOR SURE there will be some "interesting" things to look at down at the mall..(my bf got jealous when he found out about this & when these CUTE european guys said HI to me :p )haha...O-kay..that's far from the topic..

few years ago during the Bali bombing...my Australian lecturer told us that her family called & got worried about her but she assured them that our country here is pretty safe...hoaxes does happen rarely(stupid assholes)...riots?protests?the one and only(as far as i know) happened in the 60s...

although the streets may be less safer at night(and day occasionally)...the things we do worry about here are thefts,burglaries..few murders(crime of passion...very rare)..delinquents...etcetera etcetera etcetera...but we do still go out til late and such...we'd just have to be extra careful(lock the doors,windows,etc)bla bla bla..

ANYWAYS..such a long reply....Thank You for your opinion ...likewise here...I like to listen to people's opinions...may agree/disagree with them...heck..if we'd all agree on the same thing...it's not a colourful world,right?and another thing..so far I'm loving the Cellar..because of the adult conversation..change of opinions and such.... instead of some forums i found that does nothing better than to fight childishly..lewd..bla bla (although i found some naughty comments here..but that's ok....hahaha...)

thank you again..(btw,i know i can find this online..but i'm just too lazy to do that now...but...do you happen to know the overall cost to spend to go to Universal Studios(not including plane tickets)?oh oh and also cost of hotel rooms?)if not,sokay....just sometimes i'd like to ask people from there directly before doing the other research method..haha
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