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03-11-2020, 06:50 PM | #1 |
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I'll restate it, I should have written it better
I'm skeptical. If these kinds of hidden biases really guided the world in a very strong way, the nation never would have elected and reelected a black man with a foreign-sounding name. |
03-11-2020, 11:29 PM | #2 | |
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Steve Bannon was fabulous at that game. Some of the trick he used to see and avert such emotional problems in advance demonstrate genius. So much so that he even got Roger Ailes to back down. |
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03-13-2020, 07:42 AM | #3 |
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It's slowly getting better than it was in the past, and that's reason for hope. But one black President isn't proof that all racism is over. As far as what one Black president says about sexism... Black men got the right to vote before white women did. We're on the same path we've always been on, but with luck, we'll keep moving forward.
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03-13-2020, 06:53 PM | #5 |
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Microaggressions, I mostly agree. Hidden biases, though, are verifiable--like the multiple studies showing that identical resumes with a traditionally white or black name at the top get vastly different rates of interview requests. By assuming that the headhunters aren't knowingly rejecting candidates by race and are only acting on hidden biases, I'm actually giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Meanwhile, another study showed that when given a quick-thinking "shoot the bad guys but avoid the hostages" kind of test, both black and white participants were more likely to accidentally shoot the black hostages. I fully agree that accusing someone of racism isn't going to win them over, but it helps to acknowledge that there's stuff our brains do that we don't even know they do. I, personally, have found I'm sexist against women to a surprising degree--when I really stop and look at my gut reactions, I find that I dislike them more, trust them less, and assume incompetence faster than I will with a man. I try to check myself regularly because I know that for whatever reason--childhood bullies all being girls, subtle messaging from my dad who literally seemed to forget I was a girl sometimes*, who knows what else--I'm naturally biased. *I swear to God he'd give me marriage advice about women, like "if you want to know what a girl's going to be like when she gets older, look at her mother." |
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On the basis of these studies, some have tried "blind recruitment". They remove anything gender or ethnic-identifying from the resume before it goes to the head hunters. The Australian public service had a problem in hiring senior women. So they started a trial of blind recruitment. Quote:
Who will be your accountant: Booker or Cleetus? Who will watch over your cash drawer: Angela or Tangerine? Who will help watch over your aging parent during the day: Shaniqua, age 41, Registered Nurse or Carol, age 21, retail worker? |
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03-14-2020, 07:57 AM | #7 |
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I see your point, but I'm cracking up at the idea of a 21-year-old named Carol.
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03-14-2020, 08:23 AM | #8 |
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03-14-2020, 05:24 PM | #9 |
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I went to elementary school with a girl named Betsy. Her dad was a doctor.
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03-15-2020, 12:12 AM | #10 |
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We had 2 Betsys and several Carols... oh, and some Karens also.
I saw a video of foreign born residents in the US from 1850 up. I grabbed these screenshots because it started with Irish miles ahead but coming upon WW I and WW II the large Italian and German born must have caused some concern. The other thing was Mexico lagged. On the list in 1902, didn't pass the Irish until 1940, and Russians in 1963, but grabbed the lead in 1971 and skyrocketed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Cu3VGdq3A
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03-22-2020, 12:18 AM | #11 |
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Seattle is too wet, it rains all the time...
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03-22-2020, 01:14 AM | #12 |
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It doesn't rain hard in the Pacific Northwest, except for a few days out of the year. But for about 9 months there is a continuous, very fine mist.
Not a lot of "inches" but when it hits you sideways in the face, you have to wipe your face off with a towel every time you make it back to your car.
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03-24-2020, 01:05 PM | #13 |
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People are talking about Trump's approval rating in regards to the pandemic.
Is it going up, going down? Nope, still a flat line:
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Changing position equals admitting you were wrong. That must be avoided at all costs.
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Avoided? Like avoiding sprouting wings and flying around the room? Both are equally likely, equally fantastic. Neither will ever happen.
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