Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 9

classicman · 10-23-2011, 06:37 PM

mine or the "bitch's"?

If mine, thanks.

classicman · 10-25-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Occupy Philadelphia

The government is lying about how we calculate unemployment. How can you tell people to get a job when unemployment, before the rules were changed, is around 25%

The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994.
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Spexxvet · 10-26-2011, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman

The seasonally-adjusted SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate reflects current unemployment reporting methodology adjusted for SGS-estimated long-term discouraged workers, who were defined out of official existence in 1994.
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It's lovely how the line moves lower during Clinton's higher-tax period, then rises during Bush's tax cuts. "Lower taxes to reduce unemployment" is bullshit.

classicman · 10-26-2011, 10:54 AM

It appears as though it was decreasing from 2003 to 2008 as well, but you missed the point of the graph.
They were showing the difference in calculations of the actual number of unemployed. According to this data, its over 20%, not 9%

Lamplighter · 10-26-2011, 11:40 AM

We need BigV to plot the first derivative of those data.

I predict two spikes, GWB takes office and GWB leaves office

Spexxvet · 10-26-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

It appears as though it was decreasing from 2003 to 2008 as well, but you missed the point of the graph.
They were showing the difference in calculations of the actual number of unemployed. According to this data, its over 20%, not 9%

I didn't miss it. I transcended it. I looked beyond and gleaned additional wisdom. I stepped past the mundane, dare I say the pedestrian, information that was blatant and inferred more knowledge than you presented with your superficial graph. I AM THE 99%!

classicman · 10-26-2011, 11:45 AM

Lamp, try viewing this link ... I found it pretty interesting.
I tried to save it to post, but couldn't.

Lamplighter · 10-26-2011, 12:02 PM

I think your link shows a 5% average over a much longer time period,
which was one goal/assumption of the Fed,
and is reflected in the graph above, until 2001

The higher rates in earlier years also coincide with higher oil prices (crisis) of the 70's

It's always fun and games with stats...

classicman · 10-26-2011, 01:56 PM

^^ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^

Very good spexxie. That was really funny.
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Did you look at the link? It was interesting to see the trends over the longer time-frame, well right up until ...

Spexxvet · 10-26-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

^^ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^

Very good spexxie. That was really funny.

I'll be here all week. Try the mutton.

Spexxvet · 10-26-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

Did you look at the link? It was interesting to see the trends over the longer time-frame, well right up until ...

It's interesting that LBJ is the only president who didn't have a major spike (Carter had a small upturn at the end). Many people would think that LBJ would have had a huge increase in unemployment - he implemented The Great Society. People would recieve compensation even when they weren't working. Haven't conservatives asserted that this would cause lazy minorities to quit their jobs and go on the dole? It doesn't seem to have happened that way.

classicman · 11-04-2011, 08:03 PM

From 37 banks to 4 in 13 years. Hmmm

One might think they need to be broken up.

ZenGum · 11-04-2011, 08:08 PM

" ... and the control of wealth will fall into fewer and fewer hands ... eventually into a form in which it can be seized by the proletariat...."

Marx was at least half right. I'm quite interested to see what will happen over the next few decades.

Lamplighter · 11-04-2011, 08:41 PM

Sadly, I believe this is exactly what will be happening in every industry.
Corporations will buy/merge/consume each other until they dominate the "market share"

I think I allude to this somewhere in my signature below.

TheMercenary · 11-12-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ZenGum

" ... and the control of wealth will fall into fewer and fewer hands ... eventually into a form in which it can be seized by the proletariat...."

Marx was at least half right. I'm quite interested to see what will happen over the next few decades.

The gooberment will eventually control all of them.

10-23-2011, 06:37 PM	#1
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	mine or the "bitch's"? If mine, thanks. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2011, 10:54 AM	#4
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	It appears as though it was decreasing from 2003 to 2008 as well, but you missed the point of the graph. They were showing the difference in calculations of the actual number of unemployed. According to this data, its over 20%, not 9% __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2011, 11:45 AM	#7
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Lamp, try viewing this link ... I found it pretty interesting. I tried to save it to post, but couldn't. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2011, 01:56 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	^^ Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^^ Very good spexxie. That was really funny. ---------- Did you look at the link? It was interesting to see the trends over the longer time-frame, well right up until ... __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

11-04-2011, 08:03 PM	#12
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	From 37 banks to 4 in 13 years. Hmmm One might think they need to be broken up. Attached Images __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

10-26-2011, 11:40 AM	#5
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	We need BigV to plot the first derivative of those data. I predict two spikes, GWB takes office and GWB leaves office

10-26-2011, 12:02 PM	#8
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	I think your link shows a 5% average over a much longer time period, which was one goal/assumption of the Fed, and is reflected in the graph above, until 2001 The higher rates in earlier years also coincide with higher oil prices (crisis) of the 70's It's always fun and games with stats...

11-04-2011, 08:08 PM	#13
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	" ... and the control of wealth will fall into fewer and fewer hands ... eventually into a form in which it can be seized by the proletariat...." Marx was at least half right. I'm quite interested to see what will happen over the next few decades. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

11-04-2011, 08:41 PM	#14
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Sadly, I believe this is exactly what will be happening in every industry. Corporations will buy/merge/consume each other until they dominate the "market share" I think I allude to this somewhere in my signature below.

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