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Old 08-03-2019, 09:26 AM   #1
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How curious that you ignore the only patriotic Americans. The moderates.
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Not necessarily so: Everything in moderation, including moderates.

According to some, saying "Give me liberty or give me death" qualifies Patrick Henry as an extremist along with the rest of those who took up arms against the British Crown and pledged their lives, their fortune and their sacred honor for a shot at liberty and democracy.

So, one person's extremist can be another person's patriot in a diverse society. Moderates who think that theirs is the only way are unrealistic. Those intolerant of others with ideas that differ from their own, who believe their way is the only right way, are bigots which is truly unpatriotic.
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Old 08-03-2019, 10:03 AM   #2
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"The moderates."

Frankly: I don't think such creatures exist. You, for example, think of yourself as 'moderate', but you're not (no, you're just like 'me' ['cept you lie to yourself and sit on the wrong end of the spectrum]).
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:51 PM   #3
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This country is not the economy, stupid.

It's the people.
I put it to you that the economy is the people and the people are the economy, and the nation is the people is the economy. In human endeavors, can you actually part any of these? -- I don't think so.

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And the people who are devoted to the ideals that inspire and sustain this country. Look to our motto, "E Pluribus Unum". We are the many; Trump is Unum.

Trump is the alpha and the omega of his universe. He is literally one. He sees everything around him in the context of himself. His narcissism makes him incapable of comprehending, much less serving the public good--even for your touted economy.
Events show this to be utter nonsense. as put out by the nakedly prejudiced and moronically anticapitalistic -- after all, Trump loves America, as his regrettable predecessor did not. If you aren't down with capitalism, you are not down with life or creation, but rather death and rationing. No good.

And I haven't voted for Trump. Not yet, anyway...

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I do not seek to persuade you. I would guide you and teach you by example and instruction, but any gains accrued by you must be earned by you. I can't do it for you.
By example? You should be guided by mine. I am not here to steer you wrong; you should not entertain that idea. Don't degrade yourself doing that.
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Old 08-03-2019, 04:38 PM   #4
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Patriots first learn facts. Then have a conclusion. Extremist know only because a central committee of the communist party orders them to believe the party line.

Moderates make conclusions only after learning facts. Extremists call honest fact sources "fake news". A central committee has ordered them what to believe.

Roger Ailes did that every morning. His people were told in the 8 AM meeting what the party line would be on Fox News for that day. Moderates don't waste time there.

Fox could not even maintain their "Fair and Balanced" slogan. Roger Ailes' agenda told extremist only one viewpoint. Since extremists only want to be told immediately what to preach - ie by 140 character sound bites

Extremists routinely use a tldr expression when something is more than a paragraph. Learning from multiple paragraphs is too hard. Extremists (Nazis, White Supremacists, KKK, Trump supporters) only want to be told what to parrot.

What did Fox News order us to believe? See many henry quirk posts. Parroted (sometimes word for word) from Fox, et al.
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Old 08-03-2019, 07:23 PM   #5
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"Patriots first learn facts. Then have a conclusion. Extremist know only because a central committee of the communist party orders them to believe the party line. "

Well, that explains why some folks won't stop tryin' to ride the rotted carcass of the 'let's impeach Trump' jackass. It was a surly, uncooperative animal when alive and it's now it just lies there and stinks. The politiburo keeps kickin' at it, sayin' 'wake up!'.

Call *Marie Laveau: mebbe she can reanimate it.









*'course, she's dead too, so...
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:10 AM   #6
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Well, that explains why some folks won't stop tryin' to ride the rotted carcass of the 'let's impeach Trump' jackass.
As if Trump is an honest, ethical, informed, patriotic, or decent man. Since he is not and since his proof of everything is an insult, then he must be a good man - extremist logic. Even explains why he praised and is endorsed by the KKK, White Supremacists, Nazis, and other communist (dictator) types. All examples of extremists who find common ground in Trump promoted hate.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:42 AM   #7
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"As if Trump is an honest, ethical, informed, patriotic, or decent man."

He's (probably) not. As I say (have said many times): I don't care. I didn't hire him to be a saint or a role model or to maintain the status que. I hired him to be the spike in the tree, the sugar in the gas tank, the arsenic in the water supply. As long as folks like yourself are kept in near-hysteria, off-kilter by him then he can do whatever deviltry he likes.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:36 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by henry quirk;1036504I hired [Trump
to be the spike in the tree, the sugar in the gas tank, the arsenic in the water supply.
As an extremist, you only want to wreck shit. Did you also cheer the events in El Paso and Dayton? They also wanted to wreck shit.
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Old 08-03-2019, 06:30 PM   #9
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I always interpret this thread title as Hot vs The Democratic Frontrunners ....and wonder who is hot but lurking at the back of the field waiting to persuade the electorate with their 6-pack.....

as you were.
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Old 08-03-2019, 07:26 PM   #10
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"who is hot but lurking at the back of the field waiting to persuade the electorate with their 6-pack....."

That was supposed to be Michelle, but she done said 'no how, no way!'.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:28 PM   #11
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Sure, but there are limits. Pants come in measured lengths, too, but the 6'7" basketball player isn't going to find anything on the rack at Macy's. Andrew Yang is the LeBron of necks.
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:43 PM   #12
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From http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/

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Television coverage of Bernie Sanders typically focuses on his presentations to large groups of people in auditoriums; that format almost of necessity requires shouting a series of brief soundbites and standard phrases.It is so refreshing to listen to this format rather than to shouting from a podium.

I know most readers of TYWKIWDBI will skip this post entirely, but I encourage everyone to at least try the first 5-10 minutes. Turn it on while you fix a lunch or do laundry. This video gives a better sense of the man and his mindset than anything else I have encountered.

Just try ten minutes. Even if you don't like him.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:05 PM   #13
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Bernie's heart is clearly in the right place.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:01 AM   #14
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Meanwhile, Biden is no Joltin' Joe.
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Old 08-14-2019, 05:41 PM   #15
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Bernie is a resolute economic illiterate. Bernie's supporters -- even worse.

Of AOC, for another, we may describe her as actively devoted to the elimination worldwide of all economies. No mere economic illiterate she, but an active saboteuse.

The Soviet Union used to indict "wreckers," which seems generally to be some kind of economic crime. Of course, in old Sovietskii Soyuz, political incorrectness was a jailing offense.

It's easy to see an intent to be a "wrecker" in AOC's plan.
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