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Old 05-06-2009, 05:52 PM   #1
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Of course they are realistic to use. The price of some things may be high now, but it will come down as the demand for those technologies rises. And the cost of those technologies really is much less expensive than building coal or nuclear plants or using oil.

And ftr, there is no such thing as "clean coal." We have one, count it, ONE, coal plant in this country that captures the co2. Even the plants that are in the process of being built do not capture the co2. So they are ALL "dirty coal" plants. But of course people wouldn't know that by the commercials being aired every 5 minutes on TV touting the promise of "clean coal."
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:47 PM   #2
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Re: CO2 Emissions:

All who believe that CO2 emmisions are dangerous and should be
eliminated, are you suggesting that we should eliminate the human
race? After all humans do emit a lot of CO2.

With respect to thermal pollutions Al Gore will not attack the worse
source of thermal pollution - air conditioning (and his Tennessee mansion
is assumed to be ACed. Just check the atmospheric heat budget changes
of any major city in the lower 48 and HI over the last 70 years.

Cheers, Al
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Old 05-07-2009, 05:52 PM   #3
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are you suggesting that we should eliminate the human race? After all humans do emit a lot of CO2.
If we kill you off, then global warming will be solved. After all, your numbers prove it.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:05 PM   #4
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Re: CO2 Emissions:

All who believe that CO2 emmisions are dangerous and should be
eliminated, are you suggesting that we should eliminate the human
race? After all humans do emit a lot of CO2.

With respect to thermal pollutions Al Gore will not attack the worse
source of thermal pollution - air conditioning (and his Tennessee mansion
is assumed to be ACed. Just check the atmospheric heat budget changes
of any major city in the lower 48 and HI over the last 70 years.

Cheers, Al
There are two different types of carbon cycles, a micro and a macro. The Micro carbon cycle involves all living organisms. Animals breathe in oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide. Plants take in carbon dioxide and then release it when they die. This cycle fluctuates every year.

The macro carbon cycle is the cycle where carbon dioxide get trapped in the bottom of the ocean and gets pushed underground where it is either converted into coal or oil or gets shot back up by a volcano. This cycle takes hundreds of thousands or even millions of years to fluctuate.

The reason burning coal and oil is dangerous is because we are taking the carbon cycle out of equilibrium and by doing that, consequences regarding the climate will follow. Climate change does happen naturally but by changing the carbon cycle, we are causing throwing other variables in there that are not usually counted for.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:37 PM   #5
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:35 PM   #6
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So it is spoken, so it must be true.
For instance, DanaC, you cannot mount a defense of the Left that will stand against my attacks upon it. You've given up even trying. You can't even demonstrate why you think your way is better than my way.

Kind of sorry, isn't it, being all intellectually bankrupt like that?

Come to the side of the light. It's not overcrowded and the quality of life is better.
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Old 06-03-2009, 08:49 PM   #7
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Old 06-04-2009, 06:56 AM   #8
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I think he's said it rather more than three times already.
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:23 AM   #9
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LOL. touche'.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:21 AM   #10
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Ohhhh SNAP!
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Old 06-18-2009, 11:33 PM   #11
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Hey, it's a permanent thing -- or at least it's permanent so long as I am what I am, and Sugarpop is what she is. To certain people, my lifeway is a reproach to their lifeway -- and they know it is one they cannot satisfactorily rebut.

To stay Left, you have to stay childish; you have to believe a childish dependency is the road of virtue.

I don't. Thus, I am not of the Left.

It is better that way.
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:36 AM   #12
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Yey! Urbane, I was wondering when you'd come back and call me morally bankrupt again :P Missed you babes *smiles*
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:23 PM   #13
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Not morally bankrupt. <Kiss kiss.>
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:27 PM   #14
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Not morally bankrupt. <Kiss kiss.>
I should amplify: intellectually bankrupt perhaps, but AFAIK you're not an immoral individual. No torturing cats, no bestiality committed with Galapagos tortoises or dolphins... you get the idea, I'm sure.

Intellectual bankruptcy could make one morally bankrupt, but this does not necessarily follow. I think one can be morally bankrupt without being so intellectually: the bright but sociopathic.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:27 PM   #15
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Yay -- on-topic, next TEA parties are coming up July 4 (Major US holiday, ten days before Bastille Day and celebrated in much the same vein). Google for one near you.
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