Interesting graphs and charts department - Page 98

Gravdigr · 11-11-2017, 03:16 PM

♪ ♫If the city don't bury you, baby♪ ♫
♪ ♫Lord knows, the county will♪ ♫

~Boot Hill, as performed by SRV

glatt · 11-13-2017, 10:58 AM

So when you are a parent who has a kid in college, and you have a nest egg you have slowly scrimped and saved for over time, the government looks at your nest egg when it is deciding what sort of financial aid you deserve, and they determine how much they are going to take.

For years, leading up to my kid going off to college, they would leave around $40k to $50k of your nest egg alone and take a percentage of the nest egg above that. But now that my kid is in college, look at what they protect. This is for a 48 year old parent. It changes by a hundred bucks or so for each year you get older, protecting more.

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College getting more expensive and at the same time, financial aid is being reduced.

glatt · 11-13-2017, 11:01 AM

Fucking Republicans and their fucking austerity.

Griff · 11-13-2017, 05:20 PM

Austerity for some, tiny American flags for others.

They've (both parties really) punished savings for years, most recently the GOP floating ideas about smaller 401 K contributions and as always bitching about Social Security. Too be fair Hillary gave them cover on Social Security because she too has no fucking idea how people live.

Happy Monkey · 11-13-2017, 05:51 PM

Four sources of income exist for retired people - Social Security, private pensions, personal savings, and charity. Republicans have all but eliminated pensions, everyone knows their opposition to Social Security, and the 401K proposal was a surprising attack on savings.

I guess you could put, generically, "higher taxes" as a Democratic barrier to savings, but the Republicans end up worse on that, as well - they are against the progressive income tax. If taxes are made less progressive, or, in the worst case, flat, it will be even harder to build savings up from zero.

Are there any Republican proposals that make retirement easier, other than allowing the children of the extremely wealthy to retire when their parents die?

Griff · 11-14-2017, 06:38 AM

The GOP advocates dying young as the retirement plan for working people.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-01-2017, 03:01 PM

Who's right? Base your choice on unproven allegations? Discard even proven allegations in favor of policies? Vote on character rather than policy?

Undertoad · 12-01-2017, 04:10 PM

I guess, but

Roy Moore scandal begins abt Nov 5
Poll taken Nov 10-15
Al Franken allegation announced Nov 16

xoxoxoBruce · 12-01-2017, 11:37 PM

I'm sure it reflects timing but does pose some interesting thoughts.
Would you vote for a person who built an orphanage but ran over your dog?
Would you vote for a person who is promising to build an orphanage but ran over your dog?
Would the circumstances of running over the dog make a difference?

Undertoad · 12-02-2017, 07:34 AM

I was wrong anyway, misread the date, Poll taken Nov 15-20! So what does it really reflect?

xoxoxoBruce · 12-02-2017, 09:22 AM

Hypocrites?

xoxoxoBruce · 12-02-2017, 09:24 AM

How hard for English speakers to learn another language...

Undertoad · 12-02-2017, 10:27 AM

That inspired me to create this map:

xoxoxoBruce · 12-03-2017, 07:55 PM

Blofeld's plan is out the window.

For 2016 it was...

Undertoad · 12-09-2017, 09:34 AM

A lot of people are kind of unaware of this, but the entire world is actually getting its shit together.

11-11-2017, 03:16 PM	#1
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11-13-2017, 10:58 AM	#2
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	So when you are a parent who has a kid in college, and you have a nest egg you have slowly scrimped and saved for over time, the government looks at your nest egg when it is deciding what sort of financial aid you deserve, and they determine how much they are going to take. For years, leading up to my kid going off to college, they would leave around $40k to $50k of your nest egg alone and take a percentage of the nest egg above that. But now that my kid is in college, look at what they protect. This is for a 48 year old parent. It changes by a hundred bucks or so for each year you get older, protecting more. College getting more expensive and at the same time, financial aid is being reduced.

11-13-2017, 05:20 PM	#4
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Austerity for some, tiny American flags for others. They've (both parties really) punished savings for years, most recently the GOP floating ideas about smaller 401 K contributions and as always bitching about Social Security. Too be fair Hillary gave them cover on Social Security because she too has no fucking idea how people live. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-13-2017, 05:51 PM	#5
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Four sources of income exist for retired people - Social Security, private pensions, personal savings, and charity. Republicans have all but eliminated pensions, everyone knows their opposition to Social Security, and the 401K proposal was a surprising attack on savings. I guess you could put, generically, "higher taxes" as a Democratic barrier to savings, but the Republicans end up worse on that, as well - they are against the progressive income tax. If taxes are made less progressive, or, in the worst case, flat, it will be even harder to build savings up from zero. Are there any Republican proposals that make retirement easier, other than allowing the children of the extremely wealthy to retire when their parents die? __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

11-14-2017, 06:38 AM	#6
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The GOP advocates dying young as the retirement plan for working people. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

11-13-2017, 11:01 AM	#3
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Fucking Republicans and their fucking austerity.

12-01-2017, 03:01 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Who's right? Base your choice on unproven allegations? Discard even proven allegations in favor of policies? Vote on character rather than policy? Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-01-2017, 04:10 PM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I guess, but Roy Moore scandal begins abt Nov 5 Poll taken Nov 10-15 Al Franken allegation announced Nov 16

12-01-2017, 11:37 PM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I'm sure it reflects timing but does pose some interesting thoughts. Would you vote for a person who built an orphanage but ran over your dog? Would you vote for a person who is promising to build an orphanage but ran over your dog? Would the circumstances of running over the dog make a difference? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-02-2017, 07:34 AM	#10
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I was wrong anyway, misread the date, Poll taken Nov 15-20! So what does it really reflect?

12-02-2017, 09:22 AM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Hypocrites? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-02-2017, 09:24 AM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	How hard for English speakers to learn another language... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-02-2017, 10:27 AM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	That inspired me to create this map:

12-03-2017, 07:55 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Blofeld's plan is out the window. For 2016 it was... Attached Images __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-09-2017, 09:34 AM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	A lot of people are kind of unaware of this, but the entire world is actually getting its shit together.

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