High School Swim Mom - Page 3

monster · 09-01-2011, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Individual medly, one swimmer does:
Backstroke
butterfly
breast
freestyle

I know back is always first and free is always last. Not sure the order of middle two.

Actually it's fly back breast free so the swimmer can start from the blocks.

The medley relay is backstroke first (then breast fly free) because the backstroker will always start in the water so it makes more sense for them to go first.

infinite monkey · 09-01-2011, 10:14 AM

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Spexxvet · 09-01-2011, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

The Infinite Monkey stroke.

You propel yourself forward by doing this:

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monster · 09-03-2011, 09:04 AM

That was a crazy meet! There were eight schools, all with about 40 swimmers and they all did their little war chants for about 15 minutes before the meet actually got started. It was LOUD! But such a good atmosphere. The bleachers sure hurt our butts, though, we need to dig out the cushions we have somewhere.

It wasn't a regular meet, it was a relays meet, where each individual event was turned into a relay event. There were only two heats of most things -an A heat and a B heat, one team from each school in each, but there were unlimited entries allowed for the 200 Medley relay (a regular event) and the 200 free relay (ditto), but only the A and B heat were scoring heats.

First off, there was a regular medley relay where she was on the B relay, which cam in third in the B heat, scoring major points and she dropped more time off her 50 breaststroke split.

Then the IM relay, where she was in the A relay and they came in second! They only swam 100IMs each -normally at this age they swim a 200 for an individual, so her 100 time is old, but she dropped at least 5 seconds on that.

And then the breaststroke relay, where she was on the B relay. And here's where she kinda gets stiffed. They call her school the "Breaststroke Battalion" -they have 4 amazing breaststrokers already. So she gets to be number 5. in any other school, she would be #1 or 2. Her relay came in 4th, but she was first swimmer and led the field by over a second. she was the fastest swimmer in the entire heat by over a second. In fact, she was also faster than 21 of the 32 swimmers in the A heat! Including all of the swimmers from the other two Ann Arbor High Schools. But 4 of the 11 girls who were faster than her (one only just) were our A team -who won the event and set a new record.

So an awesome meet, all in all. Shame about the team dinner afterwards at Applebees

monster · 09-08-2011, 09:41 PM

Hmmm.

School actually started and is going well, away meet tonight. They finally got their team warm-up suits last night and were instructed to wear them to school today, and Swimmer Girl reported that it was cool to spot all the other swimmers in the halls, and see all the other athletes who had games/meets tonight wearing suits/ties (boys) and warm-up suits (girls)!

So, to the meet. An away meet in a 6 lane, 25 meter pool (8 lanes of 25 yards is the norm). So the coaches agreed to run only one heat in some events to speed things up. There are usually two.

Swimmer Girl swam three events (the maximum), all in lane 2, which had timimg problems, so results are somewhat uncertain until the manula times are posted.....

SG got on the B Medley Relay, swimming breast. They got third and scored points. rocking!

SG was in the 200 IM (one heat only = 6 swimmers, top 5 score). We think she got 4th (behind her two teammates) ..and she might have got 3rd -but she started the last leg (freestyle) in 5th, and that's her second worst stroke. Way to catch up, honey. Coach was pleased.

Then.... she got "lucky" and was swimming the "freshman 500". Her coach makes all freshmen swim the 500 free at some point. She got "lucky" tonight. She is NOT is distance or a freestyle swimmer. It was actually a 400 because it was a meter pool. But there was only one heat. So only one swimmer would fail to score. That was her. The time she swam was actually freaking fantastic and will probably get her a Junior Olympic cut for USA swimming, but her coach tore her a new one! She's a freshman swimming against 5 seniors/juniors FFS! and is a breaststroke /IM sprinter.

I guess the coach just has big dreams for her, but really? is it necessary to pile the high pressure on so early?

BTW, all the other freshmen and most of the sophomores only swam one event because places were limited.

I am one proud -but kinda pissed- mama.

Clodfobble · 09-09-2011, 02:43 PM

Maybe he was doing a reverse psychology thing so that the juniors/seniors won't hate her for being such a superstar? Berating her in public so they don't think she's the coach's pet.

monster · 09-09-2011, 04:05 PM

Could be, although it's a little late for that. It's probably to make sure she remembers her place, but she's not the sort of kid who gets too big for her boots anyway.

monster · 09-12-2011, 08:52 PM

So....... this week's meet (on Thurs) is against a school with 20 swimmers and Swimmer Girl can beat their fastest in anything -and so can most of the rest of the team of 45. We know them well because SG's Winter club before she went to high school is located in this school and is their feeder team.

So the result is pre-determined

Just last night, SG and I discussed that she wanted to try a free sprint -even though that is not her thing- just to see how much she'd improved. I speculated that the coach might even put her in back (her worst stroke).... we didn't go far enough....

The coach is making her dive! Her School has two divers, most others have 5 or 6. Top 5 score, so we bleed points there. SG dives in summer, is OK/good, but not good enough to get near places at championships any more (places are taken by year-round divers). I had said to SG she may need to dive as a Freshman to get more events, but it turns out so far her swim times are good enough to get the maximum number anyway. (They can compete in 4 at dual meets, each swim race is an event, diving is also an event.)

She is amused. Which is good, because we're at that teenage point where we could get any reaction from tree falling in the forest to 9/11 on acid

ZenGum · 09-13-2011, 12:30 AM

I'm beginning to have mixed feelings about this coach guy. I guess he is thinking more about the overall team, whereas I'm seeeing just what concerns Fishy Beast-Monster.

monster · 09-13-2011, 07:03 AM

Coach is female....

monster · 09-13-2011, 07:06 AM

she's fine diving. It's good for them to do events they wouldn't normally so they can develop as all rounders. 13 is too young to specialise for good. But they really can't in meets that will be close because they need to put the best in each event in that event. We just never imagined coach would have her dive -we didn't even know she'd remembered she could.

Although this morning we realized it might be a reverse meet and a reverse is the one dive she doesn't have. So she's going to mention that to coach today.

monster · 09-13-2011, 08:47 PM

And.... not diving any more because the required dived for the meet is a reverse. The only dive group she doesn't have a dive from. Two days is not enough to learn a whole new complex and dangerous dive. (Reverses are the hardest group, you take off the board in a forward dive, but then you arch/flip back so you enter facing away from the board)

ZenGum · 09-13-2011, 08:54 PM

Definite potential for head-thunking there.

Just reflecting that Fish-girl is only starting out, and in a few years she'll be swimming her core events, so a bit of diversification now is probably harmless, and maybe a good thing.

monster · 09-13-2011, 09:33 PM

Thing is, one of her two "core events" is the IM, so includes all of the strokes (except diving), so no event is a time waster for her. Except diving.

But she's actually a very beautiful and graceful diver. The problem is that she only dives for the 6-week summer team and our board is .5 meter, static fulcrum.

classicman · 09-13-2011, 10:16 PM

no thanks.

09-01-2011, 10:14 AM	#2
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09-03-2011, 09:04 AM	#4
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	That was a crazy meet! There were eight schools, all with about 40 swimmers and they all did their little war chants for about 15 minutes before the meet actually got started. It was LOUD! But such a good atmosphere. The bleachers sure hurt our butts, though, we need to dig out the cushions we have somewhere. It wasn't a regular meet, it was a relays meet, where each individual event was turned into a relay event. There were only two heats of most things -an A heat and a B heat, one team from each school in each, but there were unlimited entries allowed for the 200 Medley relay (a regular event) and the 200 free relay (ditto), but only the A and B heat were scoring heats. First off, there was a regular medley relay where she was on the B relay, which cam in third in the B heat, scoring major points and she dropped more time off her 50 breaststroke split. Then the IM relay, where she was in the A relay and they came in second! They only swam 100IMs each -normally at this age they swim a 200 for an individual, so her 100 time is old, but she dropped at least 5 seconds on that. And then the breaststroke relay, where she was on the B relay. And here's where she kinda gets stiffed. They call her school the "Breaststroke Battalion" -they have 4 amazing breaststrokers already. So she gets to be number 5. in any other school, she would be #1 or 2. Her relay came in 4th, but she was first swimmer and led the field by over a second. she was the fastest swimmer in the entire heat by over a second. In fact, she was also faster than 21 of the 32 swimmers in the A heat! Including all of the swimmers from the other two Ann Arbor High Schools. But 4 of the 11 girls who were faster than her (one only just) were our A team -who won the event and set a new record. So an awesome meet, all in all. Shame about the team dinner afterwards at Applebees __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-08-2011, 09:41 PM	#5
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Meet Report and more Hmmm. School actually started and is going well, away meet tonight. They finally got their team warm-up suits last night and were instructed to wear them to school today, and Swimmer Girl reported that it was cool to spot all the other swimmers in the halls, and see all the other athletes who had games/meets tonight wearing suits/ties (boys) and warm-up suits (girls)! So, to the meet. An away meet in a 6 lane, 25 meter pool (8 lanes of 25 yards is the norm). So the coaches agreed to run only one heat in some events to speed things up. There are usually two. Swimmer Girl swam three events (the maximum), all in lane 2, which had timimg problems, so results are somewhat uncertain until the manula times are posted..... SG got on the B Medley Relay, swimming breast. They got third and scored points. rocking! SG was in the 200 IM (one heat only = 6 swimmers, top 5 score). We think she got 4th (behind her two teammates) ..and she might have got 3rd -but she started the last leg (freestyle) in 5th, and that's her second worst stroke. Way to catch up, honey. Coach was pleased. Then.... she got "lucky" and was swimming the "freshman 500". Her coach makes all freshmen swim the 500 free at some point. She got "lucky" tonight. She is NOT is distance or a freestyle swimmer. It was actually a 400 because it was a meter pool. But there was only one heat. So only one swimmer would fail to score. That was her. The time she swam was actually freaking fantastic and will probably get her a Junior Olympic cut for USA swimming, but her coach tore her a new one! She's a freshman swimming against 5 seniors/juniors FFS! and is a breaststroke /IM sprinter. I guess the coach just has big dreams for her, but really? is it necessary to pile the high pressure on so early? BTW, all the other freshmen and most of the sophomores only swam one event because places were limited. I am one proud -but kinda pissed- mama. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-09-2011, 02:43 PM	#6
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	Maybe he was doing a reverse psychology thing so that the juniors/seniors won't hate her for being such a superstar? Berating her in public so they don't think she's the coach's pet. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

09-09-2011, 04:05 PM	#7
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Could be, although it's a little late for that. It's probably to make sure she remembers her place, but she's not the sort of kid who gets too big for her boots anyway. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-12-2011, 08:52 PM	#8
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	So....... this week's meet (on Thurs) is against a school with 20 swimmers and Swimmer Girl can beat their fastest in anything -and so can most of the rest of the team of 45. We know them well because SG's Winter club before she went to high school is located in this school and is their feeder team. So the result is pre-determined Just last night, SG and I discussed that she wanted to try a free sprint -even though that is not her thing- just to see how much she'd improved. I speculated that the coach might even put her in back (her worst stroke).... we didn't go far enough.... The coach is making her dive! Her School has two divers, most others have 5 or 6. Top 5 score, so we bleed points there. SG dives in summer, is OK/good, but not good enough to get near places at championships any more (places are taken by year-round divers). I had said to SG she may need to dive as a Freshman to get more events, but it turns out so far her swim times are good enough to get the maximum number anyway. (They can compete in 4 at dual meets, each swim race is an event, diving is also an event.) She is amused. Which is good, because we're at that teenage point where we could get any reaction from tree falling in the forest to 9/11 on acid __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-13-2011, 12:30 AM	#9
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I'm beginning to have mixed feelings about this coach guy. I guess he is thinking more about the overall team, whereas I'm seeeing just what concerns Fishy Beast-Monster. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

09-13-2011, 07:03 AM	#10
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Coach is female.... __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-13-2011, 07:06 AM	#11
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	she's fine diving. It's good for them to do events they wouldn't normally so they can develop as all rounders. 13 is too young to specialise for good. But they really can't in meets that will be close because they need to put the best in each event in that event. We just never imagined coach would have her dive -we didn't even know she'd remembered she could. Although this morning we realized it might be a reverse meet and a reverse is the one dive she doesn't have. So she's going to mention that to coach today. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-13-2011, 08:47 PM	#12
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	And.... not diving any more because the required dived for the meet is a reverse. The only dive group she doesn't have a dive from. Two days is not enough to learn a whole new complex and dangerous dive. (Reverses are the hardest group, you take off the board in a forward dive, but then you arch/flip back so you enter facing away from the board) __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

09-13-2011, 08:54 PM	#13
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Definite potential for head-thunking there. Just reflecting that Fish-girl is only starting out, and in a few years she'll be swimming her core events, so a bit of diversification now is probably harmless, and maybe a good thing. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

09-13-2011, 09:33 PM	#14
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Thing is, one of her two "core events" is the IM, so includes all of the strokes (except diving), so no event is a time waster for her. Except diving. But she's actually a very beautiful and graceful diver. The problem is that she only dives for the 6-week summer team and our board is .5 meter, static fulcrum. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart Last edited by monster; 09-13-2011 at 09:44 PM.

09-13-2011, 10:16 PM	#15
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	no thanks. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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