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Old 01-22-2019, 01:07 AM   #526
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The two o' yas are British chicks with purple lips???
So much fun is priming the pump. To demonstrate what really inspires extremists - ie 'wreck shit'. Prime the pump to discover more quirky gems. He demonstrates, rather facetiously, why we have Trump.

May as well obtain benefit from his farcical reasoning. Since we have at least two more years of a depressing reality; leaders who obtain power through insults, misogyny, tyranny, vanity, felonies, and greed.
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Old 01-22-2019, 11:21 AM   #527
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"He demonstrates...why we have Trump."

Yes, I do, my brother, by drawin' out your venom.

We have Trump cuz we needed a blunt, raw weapon to use against commies like yourself. If you and yours weren't such extremists, my brother, if you and yours could take a more 'individual' path (like me), then Trump wouldn't be neccessary. But, no, you and yours insist on (some variation of) the Holy Writ of Marx & Engels, you and yours demand observance of and submission to Karl & Fred's anti-life 'philosophy', so now you and yours have Trump to contend with (till 2024).
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:50 AM   #528
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We have Trump cuz we needed a blunt, raw weapon to use against commies like yourself. I
We have Trump who even photoshops his pictures to show him less obese than he really is. That is an honest man? Yes, to an extremist.

Even Nixon was not that vain. And you also loved Nixon.
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Old 01-23-2019, 11:23 AM   #529
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"That is an honest man?"

Nope: he a weapon...a cudgel...a broken bottle...a gun.

He ain't honest (or even human).

He's chemo/radiation to rout a cancer (you and yours)

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"And you also loved Nixon."

Wasn't fond of him, no, but if I had to choose between his rotting carcass and yours, he wins every time.

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Old 01-23-2019, 12:00 PM   #530
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:46 AM   #531
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Nope: he a weapon...a cudgel...a broken bottle...a gun.
Somehow "wrecking shit" is good. Building a nation and a safer world is not.
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Old 01-24-2019, 03:11 PM   #532
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"Somehow "wrecking shit" is good. Building a nation and a safer world is not."

Wreckin' commie shit (your shit) 'is' good.

Buildin' a commie nation is 'not'.

And: a 'safer' world is a 'less free' world.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:18 PM   #533
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And: a 'safer' world is a 'less free' world.
Commie nations exist when one promotes intolerance, only wants to "wreck shit", and sees enemies lurking everywhere. Rather than deal with issues, an extremist attacks other personi. Ironically, henry quirk demonstrates the nature, attitude, justifications, and character of a communist party politburo.

Also what Hitler advocated in his book. A "them vs. us" hate mentality that so inspires extremists at the expense of moderates. It creates communist, corrupt, and other dictator type leaders.

Clearly we must 'wreck shit" because Trump is having an emotional tantrum over a trivial wall ... that must exist only to appease his extremist supporters.

One who has opinions based in facts would have discussed these realities - and not attack others like an extremist.
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Old 01-24-2019, 06:12 PM   #534
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"Commie nations exist when one promotes intolerance, only wants to "wreck shit", and sees enemies lurking everywhere."

No, commie nations exist cuz folks like you denigrate the individual and turn him into a resource for your machine.

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"Rather than deal with issues, an extremist attacks other personi."

No, you just can't abide anyone who won't submit to commie rule.

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"Ironically, henry quirk demonstrates the nature, attitude, justifications, and character of a communist party politburo."

No, I exhibit the nature, attitude, reasons, and character of a man who wants to be left alone (sumthin' you and yours can't abide).

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"Also what Hitler advocated in his book. A "them vs. us" hate mentality that so inspires extremists at the expense of moderates."

You have way more in common with Adolph than me, and you are no moderate.

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"Clearly we must 'wreck shit" because Trump is having an emotional tantrum over a trivial wall ... that must exist only to appease his extremist supporters."

No, clearly commie shit must be wrecked.

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"One who has opinions based in facts would have discussed these realities - and not attack others like an extremist."

You're right: so when are you gonna stop doin' that stupid crap?
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Old 01-24-2019, 11:12 PM   #535
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Henry, I don't understand how trying to make sure you can buy safe food and drugs, building highways and bridges, and keeping planes from running into each other, is taking away anyone's individual rights.
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Old 01-25-2019, 08:30 AM   #536
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Bruce,

I'm guessin' this...

"Henry, I don't understand how trying to make sure you can buy safe food and drugs, building highways and bridges, and keeping planes from running into each other, is taking away anyone's individual rights."

...is in response to this...

"And: a 'safer' world is a 'less free' world."

...which I wrote in response to this...

"Somehow "wrecking shit" is good. Building a nation and a safer world is not."

What makes you think tw is talkin' about 'safe food & drugs, infrastructure, air safety, etc.'?
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Old 01-25-2019, 09:18 AM   #537
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What makes you think tw is talkin' about 'safe food & drugs, infrastructure, air safety, etc.'?
If we take away tw's attempts to provoke an emotional response, you can whittle him down to basically a good government type. The main socialist I see making political inroads nationally is AOC. She seems successful as a reaction to Tea Party politics at the Federal level which has exposed individuals to predation by connected people and corporations. If we get extreme right wing politics we are rewarded with extreme left wing politics.

We are at a difficult moment in history, AI and automation are poised to put everybody out of a job while the right chews on the social safety net and wealth accumulates among the few. Some espouse extreme liberty and some extreme equality, I'm looking for an answer between the poles but acknowledge the the right wingers blew it by over-playing their hand.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:08 AM   #538
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Bruce,

I'm guessin' this...

"Henry, I don't understand how trying to make sure you can buy safe food and drugs, building highways and bridges, and keeping planes from running into each other, is taking away anyone's individual rights."

...is in response to this...

"And: a 'safer' world is a 'less free' world."

...which I wrote in response to this...

"Somehow "wrecking shit" is good. Building a nation and a safer world is not."

What makes you think tw is talkin' about 'safe food & drugs, infrastructure, air safety, etc.'?
No, I'm trying to understand your position on those things, where the government should and shouldn't. Also wondering if some of what I hear from you is not what you feel, but extreme rhetoric in your pissing match with tw's extreme bullshit.
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Old 01-25-2019, 10:17 AM   #539
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If we get extreme right wing politics we are rewarded with extreme left wing politics.
Which returns to a same obvious conclusion. There is no left verses right. Those arguments are strawmen used by extremists to recruit the naive to their hype and spin. Reality is 'extremists verses moderates'. One can only mock the extremist quirks in our society. The emotional cannot grasp reality; only fears.

Sidebar: AI clearly does not mean less jobs. If true, than best make jobs by removing all computers from telco COs - that only destroyed jobs. Replace that job destroying computers with operators.

Reality: do that and less jobs will exist. Automation, that replaces humans with machines, actually creates MORE jobs. That makes no sense when a conclusion is based in 'open loop' reasoning. The world is 'closed loop'

We know repeatedly from history, nations that replace humans with machines have more jobs, less poverty, more wealth, better health, more growth, and social stability. AI is only a threat when using 'open loop' analysis. And by not learning well proven lessons from economics and so many 'less dismal' sciences.
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Old 01-25-2019, 11:02 AM   #540
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She seems successful as a reaction to Tea Party politics at the Federal level which has exposed individuals to predation by connected people and corporations.


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