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Old 12-28-2002, 11:44 AM   #1
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Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton

As many of you know, I have been critical of both of these men in the past. Recently I have seen a change in the way they are dealing with the press and TV. The "new and improved" black leaders are much easier to listen to and I was very impressed when I heard what they were saying.

Al was interviewed about a week ago by MSNBC and I saw the clip on the computer. The topic was whether Trent should resign from the Senate or not. What he actually said wasn't as important as how he said it. The old Al would be emotional, sarcastic, and visibly agitated. He would regularly cut people off and throw out ridiculous, far reaching parallels to slavery of long ago. The Al I saw on the clip was calm and deliberate as well as courteous. He still has an accent that is very noticeable as it distracts the listener from his message, but heís made real improvement (IMO as a country nut that speaks Hillbillian).

Jessie was recently on the Sean Hannity radio program speaking about the same topic. When I heard the promo, I couldnít believe he even booked time on the show, as he never has before. Here again his presentation of his case was refined and provided a credible interview. The old game of slavery being worked into every sentence and theme seems to have been replaced. Thatís good for both of them if they wish to increase their support.

The actual content was obviously from a black perspective and to tell the truth, Iím not real familiar or sympathetic to it. At the same time, the new refined presentation of their issues at least allows me to listen without sharpening knives. I still donít agree with many of their opinions and I think Jessie needs to be audited by the IRS, like everyone else would had they kept the same lousy accounting records for a ďnon-profitĒ org. If he continues to interview in this way, I will certainly listen and give him a fair shake though, as will millions of others.

I believe it was Frederick Douglass that first promoted the idea to ďagitate, agitate, agitateĒ the fuck out of people until they gained attention to the black peoplesí injustices and they were changed. That was in the 1800s, but the leadership seems to have adopted that into the 1900s possibly because thatís the only strategy thatís worked. That outdated method has hopefully run its course and maybe now we can have rational conversations.

Has anyone else noticed a change in the tone of these leaders?
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Old 12-28-2002, 11:55 AM   #2
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Re: Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton

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Has anyone else noticed a change in the tone of these leaders?
(Takes a long drag from a Marlboro.....then blows smoke from his ears)

I have. I think Willy coached them about the media thing, you know, being he was so god damned good at it.
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Old 12-28-2002, 12:02 PM   #3
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Did Willy tell Jessie not to come over here and try to gain support for the anti kick my ass movement? I hope so, I can't refuse the help and all, being so close to an ass kicking. That doesnt mean I enjoy haveing all these types here though.

I have to hide my public brutality when I get visitors trying to help me.
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:06 PM   #4
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As I noted here, Sharpton seems to be toning down the rhetoric. As far as Jesse, he earned massive brownie points IMO for helping to get those POW's out of Yugoslavia. But I don't think Jesse will run for political office again; his best chance was probably '92...I think his son (currently a Congressman from South Chicago) is ready to take the mantle. I think he's still very relevant in the departments of civil rights and working for unity; however, I also think that he needs to pick and choose his battles better (e.g. the students that were suspended in Decatur, IL a few years back).

Saddam, with all due respect to Allah, you might need to call the Vatican.
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:16 PM   #5
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Saddam, with all due respect to Allah, you might need to call the Vatican.
Allah, God, they're both the same....me. Had I known it was so annoying to him, I'd have sent the whole cast of the TV series The West Wing. not Spicoli.
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:25 PM   #6
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As I noted here, Sharpton seems to be toning down the rhetoric.
I see. Your description didnt create quite the same image as the clip I saw of Al. He was likeable. I almost fell out.
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:29 PM   #7
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I see. Your description didnt create quite the same image as the clip I saw of Al. He was likeable. I almost fell out.
Perhaps instead of saying that he's softening up, I could have said, "Al Sharpton now hugs and kisses babies of all colors and will grant white journalists interviews with a smile and a lollipop."
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Old 12-28-2002, 02:34 PM   #8
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I also heard the other day from Mike Gallager, that Al was actually very civil when off air in commercial breaks and such.

Mike said Al was saying something like " come on mike lets go get some reebs afta da show". Hell, I love ribs, I probably woulda gone (even if he didnt pick up the check)
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Old 12-28-2002, 03:01 PM   #9
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Slang, I admire your open-mindedness.

I admit that I haven't seen much of Sharpton or Jackson lately, but from what I've seen in the past...I'm fine with Jackson, but I'm not fond of Sharpton. If he's cut out the race-baiting rhetoric, however, he may become a real political contender.

Regardless, it will be hard for either one to divorce themselves from their past. It is too recent, and too many people view them as too reactionary. However, it is definately admirable to see such an effort.
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Old 12-25-2007, 09:45 PM   #10
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Wow a thread with input from Al Gore smoking, Saddam Hussein and God. Only on the Cellar.
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:25 PM   #11
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um, wow. Not only was Al Gore smoking, thereby increasing his carbon footprint..but was blowing smoke out of his ears. Wow.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:05 PM   #12
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lol - I thought this was an interesting thread cuz of what they were both up to this year.
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