Evolutionary Science-v- Creationism - Page 9

MrKite · 05-23-2004, 05:30 PM

Evolution is just the change in alleles over time, and that is quite factual work. Why must everyone decide to altercate about such impossible subjects. Too many people will believe what they state no matter how much irrefutable evidence the other side uses. So everyone is a winner.

Perry5 · 05-24-2004, 10:07 AM

A mind altering substance for mindles people.

MrKite · 05-24-2004, 01:43 PM

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Originally posted by Perry5
A mind altering substance for mindles people.

It is good that you stick a Pot thread in the middle of an evolutionary science vs. Creationism thread, because that makes perfect sense. But hey-maybe you are high. I guess that alochol and tobacco would be mind altering substances for mindless people because there is not much of a difference-by your logic.

perth · 05-24-2004, 01:46 PM

Does tobacco count as mind-altering? I have never really thought of it as such. And Kite, don't try using logic with him, it won't work. Call him names instead.

MrKite · 05-24-2004, 02:15 PM

I should have said nicotine because that is what I meant. Since it is addictive it is mind altering. Also it changes your blood pressure and heart rate. It does move through your bloodstream to your brain, so I would considier it psychoactive and therefore mind-altering.

Troubleshooter · 05-24-2004, 04:24 PM

Central and south american natives use nicotine as a mind altering drug because their tobacco has almost twenty times the nicotine.

Imagine one whole cigarette in each drag...

DanaC · 05-24-2004, 05:22 PM

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Central and south american natives use nicotine as a mind altering drug because their tobacco has almost twenty times the nicotine.
Imagine one whole cigarette in each drag...

*sobs quietly and rolls a joint with no tobacco in it*

wolf · 05-25-2004, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by Troubleshooter
Imagine one whole cigarette in each drag...

Cool.

OnyxCougar · 11-28-2004, 05:57 PM

Also, submitted to those who advance the story of Jesus is copycatted from other religions:

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycat.html

For your perusal

Troubleshooter · 11-28-2004, 06:43 PM

Ok, to clarify.

I believe that the process of evolution is sufficiently proven to be an accepted theory.

I believe that there is no evidence of any sort pointing to a first cause for creation.

I believe that there is no evidence for a first cause for evolution.

I believe that creation may have occured, but as with evolution, there is no evidence for a first cause.

I know that I exist, I know that I am the *queue Architect's office scene* the result of a series of both genetic responses to environmental factors over a long time of biological evolution as well as a progressive evolution of thinking over a long period of time as well.

That is the closest thing that anyone knows.

Faith is not knowledge, it is acceptance, it does not stand up to empiricism, it cannot do so by definition.

That doesn't make it wrong either. Just unprovable.

I accept that there is the possibility that Xtians are right, but I also assert that they are no more likely to be right than any other religion as they all turn on the same axis, faith.

OnyxCougar · 11-29-2004, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Ok, to clarify.

I believe that the process of evolution is sufficiently proven to be an accepted theory.

I believe that there is no evidence of any sort pointing to a first cause for creation.

I believe that there is no evidence for a first cause for evolution.

I believe that creation may have occured, but as with evolution, there is no evidence for a first cause.

I know that I exist, I know that I am the *queue Architect's office scene* the result of a series of both genetic responses to environmental factors over a long time of biological evolution as well as a progressive evolution of thinking over a long period of time as well.

That is the closest thing that anyone knows.

Faith is not knowledge, it is acceptance, it does not stand up to empiricism, it cannot do so by definition.

That doesn't make it wrong either. Just unprovable.

I accept that there is the possibility that Xtians are right, but I also assert that they are no more likely to be right than any other religion as they all turn on the same axis, faith.

I agree with the essence of your statement.

At last! Common ground!

richlevy · 11-28-2004, 06:50 PM

You know, I'm going to write a science textbook that advances the theory that gravity is actually caused by tiny invisible angels holding everything down. I could probably sell 2 million in Texas alone.

wolf · 11-28-2004, 06:58 PM

Sorta the antithesis of Maxwell's Friction Demons?

jaguar · 11-29-2004, 01:48 AM

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Central and south american natives use nicotine as a mind altering drug because their tobacco has almost twenty times the nicotine.

Considering that stuff was once upon a time a rather effective posion I hate to think what that's doing to them.

Clodfobble · 11-29-2004, 06:57 AM

...don't you smoke, jag?

05-24-2004, 10:07 AM	#2
Perry5 Do-er of Deeds Join Date: May 2004 Location: (tate of confusion.) Posts: 41	(Pot) A mind altering substance for mindles people. __________________ (New kid on the block,just waiving a hand.)

05-24-2004, 04:24 PM	#6
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Central and south american natives use nicotine as a mind altering drug because their tobacco has almost twenty times the nicotine. Imagine one whole cigarette in each drag... __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

11-28-2004, 05:57 PM	#9
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	Also, submitted to those who advance the story of Jesus is copycatted from other religions: http://www.christian-thinktank.com/copycat.html For your perusal __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

11-28-2004, 06:43 PM	#10
Troubleshooter The urban Jane Goodall Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 3,012	Ok, to clarify. I believe that the process of evolution is sufficiently proven to be an accepted theory. I believe that there is no evidence of any sort pointing to a first cause for creation. I believe that there is no evidence for a first cause for evolution. I believe that creation may have occured, but as with evolution, there is no evidence for a first cause. I know that I exist, I know that I am the queue Architect's office scene the result of a series of both genetic responses to environmental factors over a long time of biological evolution as well as a progressive evolution of thinking over a long period of time as well. That is the closest thing that anyone knows. Faith is not knowledge, it is acceptance, it does not stand up to empiricism, it cannot do so by definition. That doesn't make it wrong either. Just unprovable. I accept that there is the possibility that Xtians are right, but I also assert that they are no more likely to be right than any other religion as they all turn on the same axis, faith. __________________ I have gained this from philosophy: that I do without being commanded what others do only from fear of the law. - Aristotle

11-28-2004, 06:50 PM	#12
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	You know, I'm going to write a science textbook that advances the theory that gravity is actually caused by tiny invisible angels holding everything down. I could probably sell 2 million in Texas alone. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

05-23-2004, 05:30 PM	#1
MrKite Fresh Incumbent Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 28	Evolution is just the change in alleles over time, and that is quite factual work. Why must everyone decide to altercate about such impossible subjects. Too many people will believe what they state no matter how much irrefutable evidence the other side uses. So everyone is a winner.

05-24-2004, 01:46 PM	#4
perth Strong Silent Type Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 1,949	Does tobacco count as mind-altering? I have never really thought of it as such. And Kite, don't try using logic with him, it won't work. Call him names instead.

05-24-2004, 02:15 PM	#5
MrKite Fresh Incumbent Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 28	I should have said nicotine because that is what I meant. Since it is addictive it is mind altering. Also it changes your blood pressure and heart rate. It does move through your bloodstream to your brain, so I would considier it psychoactive and therefore mind-altering.

11-28-2004, 06:58 PM	#13
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Sorta the antithesis of Maxwell's Friction Demons? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

11-29-2004, 06:57 AM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	...don't you smoke, jag?

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