Political compass II - Page 5

xoxoxoBruce · 06-24-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Nope. Unlike most of the people (typically the NORML crowd) I know the really bad down side of what fun drugs can do to you.

That's because you see the failures, day in, day out. What you don't see is the millions of people doing recreational drugs without going to hell in a handbasket. They don't make the news or the institutions unless they get caught. Then they become examples and pay for breaking the law even though the worse thing they did was......break the law.
I've seen what can happen when someone uses a motor vehicle irresponsibly but I wouldn't advocate nobody being allowed to drive.

Radar · 06-24-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

Nope. Unlike most of the people (typically the NORML crowd) I know the really bad down side of what fun drugs can do to you.

I don't think anyone is disputing whether or not drugs are bad for you. That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not government is here to protect us from our own bad decisions and the answer to that is a resounding HELL NO!

I've seen the good and bad side of drugs personally. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone...(other than ecstacy or marijuana)

but the fact remains that it's not the place of government to stop people from being stupid. If it were, all the people who voted for Bush would be in prison.

People own themselves, and they own their lives just like they own their property. They can do something great with that property, or they can destroy it. Either way, it's not up to you or anyone else to force them to take any particular course of action unless that person is physically harming or endangering a non-consenting other or their property.

Fast food is very bad for you. Do you think government should ban fast food and arrest people who eat it?

My guess is no. If not, why not? How is it different than telling other people what drugs they may or may not take?

OnyxCougar · 06-21-2005, 11:37 AM

new numbers

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62

old numbers

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36

dar512 · 06-21-2005, 01:48 PM

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

dar512 · 09-03-2008, 03:11 PM

2005:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Today:
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

I seem to be drifting to the center, if you believe the results.

lookout123 · 09-03-2008, 03:12 PM

And we welcome you. have some coffee, let's agree on some things.

oh damn, i think i scared him off.

dar512 · 04-01-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dar512

2005:

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36

Today (9/2008):
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

I seem to be drifting to the center, if you believe the results.

Well Shawnee, I answered as honestly as I could both times. I guess it's possible.

Shawnee123 · 04-01-2009, 11:18 AM

You know my penchant for hyperbole, dar.

There are, of course, differences in agreeing or strongly agreeing. Using my examples, one could think "well, we're not all happy butterflies. Some of us are moths, but the really pretty moths like a Gypsy moth maybe. So I'll answer just 'disagree.'"

Happy Monkey · 06-23-2005, 11:35 AM

Didn't you see "Reefer Madness"? If you use drugs, you'll start killing people.

Radar · 06-23-2005, 03:29 PM

I don't know about you, but when I go out with my friends we each order what we want to eat, not what one of the other people tells us to eat. Even if there are 10 people who order the same dish and the other person orders something else, I've never seen the people ask that one person to go.

America is NOT a democracy. The rights of the individual are more important than the desires of millions.

I am intrigued as to why you don't believe my statement. It's like you believe if one person has no money they are poor. But if 1000 people have no money they are wealthy. It seems in your world, 0+0+0+0+0 = 100

dar512 · 06-23-2005, 03:38 PM

What? You've never been in the situation where you're all standing around trying to decide which restaurant to go to? Sure you each choose off the menu, but that's fine grain. The bigger question is which restaurant to go to. And that's a group decision.

As to the rest, your math analogy is bad. It's not that I have zero power to make decisions like this. I have 1/US Population power. Not much by itself, but a million folks here and million there - pretty soon it adds up.

Bullitt · 08-05-2005, 02:57 PM

I just realized that I am the only one in the upper left quadrant... hmm

elSicomoro · 06-23-2005, 03:32 PM

Wow...is Radar becoming...*gulp*...kindler and gentler? He doesn't seem as harsh anymore. Man, I guess he just needed that good news about the wifey...

Griff · 06-23-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sycamore

Wow...is Radar becoming...*gulp*...kindler and gentler? He doesn't seem as harsh anymore.

I think its the times man, everyone who isn't up GWs repugnant ass is starting to understand what Radar has been saying all along. 2 outs bottom of the ninth for Lady Liberty, she needs to put up some runs in a hurry.

dar512 · 06-24-2005, 11:36 AM

You haven't addressed what I said at all, Radar. What am I to make of this? Either you purposely misconstrued it for the sake of argument (which is sad) or you haven't understood it (even sadder).

06-21-2005, 11:37 AM	#3
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	new numbers Economic Left/Right: -3.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62 old numbers Economic Left/Right: -4.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.36 __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

06-21-2005, 01:48 PM	#4
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	Economic Left/Right: -3.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36 __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

09-03-2008, 03:11 PM	#5
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	2005: Economic Left/Right: -3.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36 Today: Economic Left/Right: -0.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00 I seem to be drifting to the center, if you believe the results. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

09-03-2008, 03:12 PM	#6
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	And we welcome you. have some coffee, let's agree on some things. oh damn, i think i scared him off. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

04-01-2009, 11:18 AM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You know my penchant for hyperbole, dar. There are, of course, differences in agreeing or strongly agreeing. Using my examples, one could think "well, we're not all happy butterflies. Some of us are moths, but the really pretty moths like a Gypsy moth maybe. So I'll answer just 'disagree.'" __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

06-23-2005, 11:35 AM	#9
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Didn't you see "Reefer Madness"? If you use drugs, you'll start killing people. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

06-23-2005, 03:29 PM	#10
Radar Constitutional Scholar Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ocala, FL Posts: 4,006	I don't know about you, but when I go out with my friends we each order what we want to eat, not what one of the other people tells us to eat. Even if there are 10 people who order the same dish and the other person orders something else, I've never seen the people ask that one person to go. America is NOT a democracy. The rights of the individual are more important than the desires of millions. I am intrigued as to why you don't believe my statement. It's like you believe if one person has no money they are poor. But if 1000 people have no money they are wealthy. It seems in your world, 0+0+0+0+0 = 100 __________________ "I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death." - George Carlin

06-23-2005, 03:38 PM	#11
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	What? You've never been in the situation where you're all standing around trying to decide which restaurant to go to? Sure you each choose off the menu, but that's fine grain. The bigger question is which restaurant to go to. And that's a group decision. As to the rest, your math analogy is bad. It's not that I have zero power to make decisions like this. I have 1/US Population power. Not much by itself, but a million folks here and million there - pretty soon it adds up. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

08-05-2005, 02:57 PM	#12
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	I just realized that I am the only one in the upper left quadrant... hmm __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

06-23-2005, 03:32 PM	#13
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Wow...is Radar becoming...gulp...kindler and gentler? He doesn't seem as harsh anymore. Man, I guess he just needed that good news about the wifey...

06-24-2005, 11:36 AM	#15
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	You haven't addressed what I said at all, Radar. What am I to make of this? Either you purposely misconstrued it for the sake of argument (which is sad) or you haven't understood it (even sadder). __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

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