God and Devil

Mystic Rythm · 12-29-2004, 02:41 AM

The pain and suffering which world endures can only exist in retaliation to something excessively good and pure. We feel the pain because we know state of no pain. First we are given gospel of truth and then thrown into lies. who attested those truths? Is he who opposes god a devil? Then he opposes no more than what god tells us to oppose, evil. God and devil are no different but mere conception of human mind. Both are same. Nothing has hurt mankind more than its god. He who is born out of ashes can rise no above.

Sperlock · 12-29-2004, 09:14 PM

I think mankind and it's interpretation of God, their gospels of truth, etc. hurts mankind more than God does.

Carbonated_Brains · 12-29-2004, 10:50 PM

God and devil are no different but mere conception of human mind. Both are same. Nothing has hurt mankind more than its god. He who is born out of ashes can rise no above.

Seriously, philosophy is dead.

What is this crap.

BE MORE COHERENT

wolf · 12-30-2004, 01:01 AM

Funny, I was thinking that this was one of mystic's better posts. He uses punctuation, upper and lower case letters, and makes some interesting philosophical points.

elSicomoro · 12-30-2004, 01:15 AM

Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

Carbonated_Brains · 12-30-2004, 01:23 AM

You filthy, unwashed, stinky liar!

elSicomoro · 12-30-2004, 01:26 AM

Look man, it's only been 3 days since my last shower.

Griff · 12-30-2004, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore

Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

Banned!

elSicomoro · 12-30-2004, 09:05 AM

I will then come back as BannedSycamore, call you all a bunch of fucking idiots™ and photoshop something mean-spirited involving you.

OnyxCougar · 12-30-2004, 12:21 PM

I think that everything has an opposite.

Therefore if there is a God that represents love, creation, truth, compassion and justice, there is an opposite force (a "devil") that represents hate, destruction, lies, indifference and injustice.

In the Christian mindset, the devil is not as powerful as God, because Lucifer was once an angel, created by God. This means that ultimately, Good will triumph over Evil, as good is (in the long run) more powerful than evil. This is then further ensured by Jesus' sacrifice and ascension, enabling him to come back to earth and meet Lucifer face to face, and subduing him.

Other pantheons have similar concepts in different forms, but the idea in most is centered on good vs. evil. If you do good, you will advance, be rewarded. If you do evil, you will not advance, be punished.

It is the timeless struggle.

Carbonated_Brains · 12-30-2004, 11:06 PM

Or just bollocks.

russotto · 12-31-2004, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

I think that everything has an opposite.

Therefore if there is a God that represents love, creation, truth, compassion and justice, there is an opposite force (a "devil") that represents hate, destruction, lies, indifference and injustice..

IIRC, this argument is an official Catholic heresy. Watch out for Spaniards with lighted brands.

Beestie · 01-01-2005, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

... the devil is not as powerful as God, because Lucifer was once an angel, created by God.

You know how sometimes you get a thought so uncomfortable you banish it before it has a chance to root.

I just wondered the opposite of your point.

OnyxCougar · 01-02-2005, 02:35 PM

I think I will choose to banish that opposite thought.

Mystic Rythm · 01-03-2005, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sycamore

Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

Better resonate one's own personality: good or bad, weak or strong!

12-29-2004, 02:41 AM	#1
Mystic Rythm Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 49	God and Devil The pain and suffering which world endures can only exist in retaliation to something excessively good and pure. We feel the pain because we know state of no pain. First we are given gospel of truth and then thrown into lies. who attested those truths? Is he who opposes god a devil? Then he opposes no more than what god tells us to oppose, evil. God and devil are no different but mere conception of human mind. Both are same. Nothing has hurt mankind more than its god. He who is born out of ashes can rise no above.

12-29-2004, 09:14 PM	#2
Sperlock Elite Elitist Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 322	I think mankind and it's interpretation of God, their gospels of truth, etc. hurts mankind more than God does. __________________ Every oak tree started out as a couple of nuts who stood their ground. - Anonymous http://informationthreshold.blogspot.com, http://spiritualthreshold.blogspot.com

12-30-2004, 01:01 AM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Funny, I was thinking that this was one of mystic's better posts. He uses punctuation, upper and lower case letters, and makes some interesting philosophical points. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

12-30-2004, 12:21 PM	#10
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I think that everything has an opposite. Therefore if there is a God that represents love, creation, truth, compassion and justice, there is an opposite force (a "devil") that represents hate, destruction, lies, indifference and injustice. In the Christian mindset, the devil is not as powerful as God, because Lucifer was once an angel, created by God. This means that ultimately, Good will triumph over Evil, as good is (in the long run) more powerful than evil. This is then further ensured by Jesus' sacrifice and ascension, enabling him to come back to earth and meet Lucifer face to face, and subduing him. Other pantheons have similar concepts in different forms, but the idea in most is centered on good vs. evil. If you do good, you will advance, be rewarded. If you do evil, you will not advance, be punished. It is the timeless struggle. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

01-02-2005, 02:35 PM	#14
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	I think I will choose to banish that opposite thought. __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

12-29-2004, 10:50 PM	#3
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	God and devil are no different but mere conception of human mind. Both are same. Nothing has hurt mankind more than its god. He who is born out of ashes can rise no above. Seriously, philosophy is dead. What is this crap. BE MORE COHERENT

12-30-2004, 01:15 AM	#5
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Okay, okay...I'm Mystic Rythm. Sorry to put you all through this...carry on.

12-30-2004, 01:23 AM	#6
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	You filthy, unwashed, stinky liar!

12-30-2004, 01:26 AM	#7
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Look man, it's only been 3 days since my last shower.

12-30-2004, 09:05 AM	#9
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	I will then come back as BannedSycamore, call you all a bunch of fucking idiots™ and photoshop something mean-spirited involving you.

12-30-2004, 11:06 PM	#11
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	Or just bollocks.

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