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Old 08-08-2019, 11:17 AM   #31
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"Funny how concepts such as mathematics, economics, and history say otherwise."

Funny how extremists like yourself ignore the basic reality about an economy: it's all about people (what they have, what they want [not what folks like yourself think they should have or want]).

An economy is nuthin' more than the countless transactions between and among individuals occurring within a context of what's available. Those 'leading indicators' you place so much faith in (like the good lil religionist you are) are nuthin' but guess work and estimate used by 'experts', who fundamentally don't know diddly about diddly, to sway opinion, to fulfill prophecy.

You're a workhorse bein' led by a carrot that isn't even real.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:04 PM   #32
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Those 'leading indicators' you place so much faith in (like the good lil religionist you are) are nuthin' but guess work and estimate used by 'experts', who fundamentally don't know diddly about diddly, to sway opinion, to fulfill prophecy.
Demonstrated but again is why extremists want to wreck shit. Since they just know; need not first learn anything. Even gleefully advocated the massacre of 5000 American serviceman for no useful purpose. Since insults prove righteousness.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:41 PM   #33
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"insults prove righteousness"

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Old 08-31-2019, 05:13 PM   #34
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People whose information comes from honest sources know leading indicators say a recession apparently started at the the beginning of 2019 (as predicted at the end of 2018).
Economists note that employment has stayed artificially higher since so many companies were trying to import and stock up on supplies from China before the "we want to create recession" tariffs. Masking the fact that previous tariffs had already done economic harm.

From the Economist of 24 Aug 2019:
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In recent weeks the humans and silicon brains at Google have registered an alarming rise in searches related to "recession". It is easily explained. As markets gyrate, talk in the press turns to the risk of a slump. Even so, the stories must leave some Googlers baffled. In July, after all, the American economy added some 164,000 jobs and retail sales kept climbing. ...

Today's confusion owes something to the world's odd recent economic history. The last global slump occurred amid an epic financial crisis. The one before that began nearly two decades ago accompanied, again, by the stockmarket crash. Between August 2000 and September 2001 [George Jrs tenure] the S&P 500 index fell by more than 30% and the NASDAQ by more than 60%. Now, by contrast, those indices are pretty much where they were a year ago. Most people cannot remember a recession not linked to financial chaos. But downturns can occur without market meltdowns.
Stock market feel. When did the resulting economic calamity occur? Five years later it appeared in lagging indicators such as jobs.

Apparent are factors that says a downturn has started. While The Don is openly encouraging it to preach to his base - at the expense of this American economy. Lagging indicators (employment, retail sales) will not report this downturn for years. But leading indicator (ie gyrations in the stock market, inverted yield curves, and a new indicator - Google searches) demonstrate The Don has successfully started the downturn.

He raised tariffs on imported steel to protect American steel making jobs. And so US Steel shutdown blast furnaces in its Great Lakes and Gary IN plant in June. Then in Aug announced 200 layoffs for what may be up to six months. Yea, those tariffs really helped. As tariffs always do. They destroy jobs. But it sure makes wacko extremists so love Trump.
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Old 08-31-2019, 05:22 PM   #35
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Meanwhile, an egotist who loves Putin, Xi, and Kim while demonstrating repeated contempt for our closest allies, again, did harm only to make himself look good. Trump released secret satellite photographs of an Iranian rocket pad taken from a satellite that America's enemies are not even suppose to know exists.

Trump's reply. I am the president and can do what I want. People who want to wreck shit love that attitude.
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Old 08-31-2019, 06:39 PM   #36
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From what I've read, America's enemies already knew the satellite exists. Even amateur satellite trackers knew about it, had been tracking it, and had projected its capabilities. They just hadn't actually seen the results before; because, the results hadn't previously been in an open source. Any strategic loss due to dissemination would seem to be slight.

Keep in mind; also, that enemies are not the only reason for classifying information. Some things are classified because they're deemed unsuitable for American public consumption (e.g. One can imagine how this information could play into conspiracy theories about the US government spying on American citizens; or, tracking illegal aliens.)

Sometimes it's just a political call that depends on the political climate at the time of classification and again at declassification.

A little about what others already knew, here.
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:15 PM   #37
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How do we know that's not a CGI image?
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:33 AM   #38
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How do we know they didn't lower astronauts down on a cable from the International Space Station to take closeups with their HD cameras.
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Old 09-01-2019, 08:57 AM   #39
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"You're a workhorse bein' led by a carrot that isn't even real."

'nuff said
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Old 09-01-2019, 08:58 AM   #40
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How do we know that's not a CGI image?
If responsible, then he could have posted pictures from the so many public reconnaissance satellites. But he is egotistical. He wants to show off how much better those secret pictures are.

Everyone knows where satellites are. That was never secret. Unknown is what the many secret ones are and what they do. For example what is the X-37 doing; a spaceshuttle that works better because it has no humans.

Trump simply gave away secret information such as resolution and abilities of KH-11 satellites. Now the 'enemies' have a good idea what they must do to remain hidden. And what they need not do.

Does that satellite have other advanced features such as movable lens (an expression intentionally vague so that another secret function need not be understood). Not known if his pictures also gave away that function.

If responsible, he could have used pictures from publicly available satellites from DigitalGlobe or Geo-Airbus. No. He needed to brag how much better 'his' satellites are.

Which again raises a serious 'off the record' question among psychiatrists. Is he really same? He is clearly not responsible.

BTW, we know how Xi, Kim, and Putin play successfully on his ego. No secret there. And not something that Trump will brag about. Honesty is not one of his features.
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:26 AM   #41
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Some people just like making mountains out of molehills, the Chicken Littles of the world.
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:36 AM   #42
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Some people just like making mountains out of molehills, the Chicken Littles of the world.
That one satellite costs more than an aircraft carrier. His ego is more important than protecting its secrets. Mental competency is an obvious question. That is an Everest mountain.

We know this idiot even shared secrets with the Russian ambassador and foreign minister while they were alone in the Oval Office. Why would anyone trust a penis brain covered with a bad blond wig.
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Old 09-01-2019, 10:05 AM   #44
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That one satellite costs more than an aircraft carrier. His ego is more important than protecting its secrets. Mental competency is an obvious question. That is an Everest mountain.

We know this idiot even shared secrets with the Russian ambassador and foreign minister while they were alone in the Oval Office. Why would anyone trust a penis brain covered with a bad blond wig.
I thought resorting to insults was the domain of small minds and emotional children.

What's got ya so wound up, pudd'n pop?
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Old 09-01-2019, 10:33 AM   #45
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Julian Assange did nothing wrong!
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