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Old 06-29-2010, 03:55 PM   #1
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Communism has only failed in the past because it's not gone far enough. It's not had enough power or control to protect the rights and interests of the people.

Sort of true but it all goes to "ISMS" running afoul of Mother Nature (or at least human nature)

Communism expects everyone to work for the greater good of the whole but people are pretty much stuck on looking out for #1.

Similarly Capitalism fails because so many people are simply greedy. Wall Street Ponzi schemes, tax breaks for the wealthy, mortgage tools intended only for personal gain.
While Buffet & Bill and Melinda might be putting their wealth to work there are a few thousand millionaires more interested in Swiss banking than their fellow man.

There should be reward for risk but there should also be food, healthcare and dignity.
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Old 06-29-2010, 08:50 PM   #2
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They had enough power/control to protect the rights and interests of the "people", but they had no interest in protecting the rights and interests of the individual.

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Old 07-01-2010, 10:35 AM   #3
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Welcome, Nietzschedanced.

Those are not failures of capitalism, they are attempts at gaming the system, by sharpies and grifters. This goes on wherever there is a system of any kind. (There was probably some ancient Spartan trying to corner the market on iron, or on its distribution.) Socialism had and has a raft of 'em too, and featured protection of such gamesters and cheats through social, or class, privilege. If you were in the Nomenklatura, you could indulge in corruption your whole life without penalty.

It vexes the Left to mention, but capitalism not only can be practiced ethically, it is at its most profitable when this is done, so capitalism plain should be done that way. The Left doesn't want to hear that, because they are always looking for dirt to throw upon capitalism and its traditional, human values. But they are doomed to failure at anticapitalism and conversion back to human ways, because capitalism, in both its systematic and its unsystematic features, constitutes what humans do, absent government interference or meddling.

Socialism mandates meddling with what humans do in the one known natural way. Phooey to socialism.
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