SCOTUS Grants Guantanamo Prisoners Habeas Corpus

[Aliantha]

No

[DanaC]

I find myself agreeing with Merc :P not exactly unheard of, but not a right common event either

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by DanaC

I find myself agreeing with Merc :P not exactly unheard of, but not a right common event either

Keep hope alive. Yes we can.

[DanaC]

Yes we can!!

[TheMercenary]

How long do you think it will take for Obama to completely close Gitmo? Or do you think he can close it at all any time soon?

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

How long do you think it will take for Obama to completely close Gitmo? Or do you think he can close it at all any time soon?

Since almost everyone in Gitmo was not guilty, transfers the few guilty ones should not take long. Transfer to the US where they would be if the president was an honest man. Why Guantanamo? Then we might have learned about the hundreds of innocent men held without any judicial review.

Stalin had gulags. Hitler had his concentration camps. George Jr had Gitmo.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

Since almost everyone in Gitmo was not guilty, transfers the few guilty ones should not take long.

Since you have no evidence to support that I will just have to ignore you.

On further note, Obama was quoted on 60 min tonight as saying he will close it. I am really happy. Now they need to send all those folks back home immediately. Only the most violent offenders need to be sent to a federal pen in the US.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

On further note, Obama was quoted on 60 min tonight as saying he will close it. I am really happy. Now they need to send all those folks back home immediately.

Where hundreds of Gitmo prisioners have been sent AND remain free. But that too is a fact probably never reported on Fox News.

[classicman]

I heard on the news that the problem is that many countries won't take them back. I'm not sure how true it is, but it was from an interview with a senator.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by classicman

I heard on the news that the problem is that many countries won't take them back. I'm not sure how true it is, but it was from an interview with a senator.

I would tell those countries, to bad. They will be on the next flight home. Cause we ain't keeping them any longer. Do what you want with them. That is not our problem.

[classicman]

If only it were that easy.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I would tell those countries, to bad. They will be on the next flight home. Cause we ain't keeping them any longer. Do what you want with them. That is not our problem.

Imagine the movie. People routinely shuttled back and forth between countries, living most of the time on airplane, learning where to brush their teeth and take showers in airports. All because some wacko extremist politician lied and because the judicial system was subverted.

Let's see. What would any decent person then do? Become a terrorist - living in airports and on airplanes. Who would be the antagonist and protagonist?

[classicman]

How many are left there - Does anyone know? Are we talking thousands, hundreds...?

[tw]

Originally Posted by classicman

How many are left there - Does anyone know? Are we talking thousands, hundreds...?

Ballpark numbers. We held about 800 prisoners in Guantanamo. At least 400 have recently been released. There may be 250 still imprisoned. Maybe 8 or 20 were dangerous.

Of course, we have created another problem. So many people held inhumanly and criminally by the US - we have now created new terrorists. Which ones? We have no idea. Once you start torturing people, then interrogators say nothing useful can be obtained. We probably do not even know how many terrorists - people inspired to hate Americans - we have created.

[classicman]

In that case just make them "disappear" - there, problem solved.