Question: Why do we need an Executive Branch?

[10MHz]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

All the presidents have used signing statements to get things done around Congress or to declare their intent. Not new.

Most Presidents use signing statements to clarify their interpretation of a specific law, not as a declaration of defiance. Bush has issued more signing statements (over 1,100 to date) than all other previous Presidents and uses them in a manner simillar to a line item veto, a practice ruled to be unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...dreds_of_laws/

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by 10MHz

Most Presidents use signing statements to clarify their interpretation of a specific law, not as a declaration of defiance. Bush has issued more signing statements (over 1,100 to date) than all other previous Presidents and uses them in a manner simillar to a line item veto, a practice ruled to be unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...dreds_of_laws/

I don't care. He used them as he saw fit. I didn't agree with all of it but he did it and people followed his wishes. In a few months we will have another president who will do things many disagree with. Not new.

[10MHz]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't care. He used them as he saw fit. I didn't agree with all of it but he did it and people followed his wishes. In a few months we will have another president who will do things many disagree with. Not new.

You're not alone in your contempt for the rules of law. In the past, signing statements were used sparingly to express concerns about Constitutional issues or a fundamental disagreement between the Executive and Legislative branches. However, the only branch that can determine the Constitutionality of a law is the Judiciary. The only branch that can alter a law as written is the Legislative. Nowhere is it stated that a President/Executive can simply choose whether or not a law he signed is legal, enforcable, or anything else. He either signs it and it becomes a law that he is sworn to uphold, or he vetoes it. Period.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't care.

If Hillary wins we're going to quote this relentlessly.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Griff

If Hillary wins we're going to quote this relentlessly.

I doubt Hitlery would use signing statements like Bush did. If she does there will be plenty of other people calling the kettle black. I certainly care if Hitlery gets elected, since I don't want her in the White House.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I don't care. He used them as he saw fit.

Unlike all other presidents (except Nixon), he used it only because the Presidency did not have enough power. Whereas other presidents had respect for the segregation of powers as defined by the Constitution, Pres Cheney does not. Cheney stated so. Signing statements and other perversions of the American government were used to do torture, international kidnapping of the innocent, wiretapping of anyone including George Jr political opponents - especially whistle blowers, suspension of Habeas Corpus so as to eliminate Judicial powers, promoting lies to create "Mission Accomplished", and even unilaterally destroying international treaties only because extremists did not like those treaties. All these executed for the glory of wacko extremists and in contempt for American patriots - the moderates.

TheMercenary does not care because belligerence, violence, hate, and more wars mean the greater glory for extremism. He even hates immigrants such as ants, bees, and earth worms.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

TheMercenary does not care because belligerence, violence, hate, and more wars mean the greater glory for extremism. He even hates immigrants such as ants, bees, and earth worms.

Only an Idiot would believe that ants, bees, and earthworms are immigrants.

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Only an Idiot would believe that ants, bees, and earthworms are immigrants.

TheMercenary again uses insult as proof. Insult, derogatory remarks, hate, and proof provided only using a political agenda. He gets predictable.

Does he call her Hitlary because she is his next target? Isn't that how extremists gain power?

Meanwhile, those who learned basic science know that ants, bees, and earthworms are immigrants. All arrived without using Ellis Island.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

TheMercenary again uses insult as proof. Insult, derogatory remarks, hate, and proof provided only using a political agenda. He gets predictable.

Does he call her Hitlary because she is his next target? Isn't that how extremists gain power?

Meanwhile, those who learned basic science know that ants, bees, and earthworms are immigrants. All arrived without using Ellis Island.

Hey Ted, don't forget the Dinosaurs! They were immigrants too!