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Old 12-06-2019, 05:15 PM   #691
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Slime mold is smart?

https://www.sciencefriday.com/segmen...s-slime-molds/

Despite having no brain or neurons and being just one giant goopy cell, these slime molds keep defying our expectations. They can solve mazes, recreate the Tokyo railway network (animation below), learn, and even anticipate events. They can make rational and irrational choices that mirror our own. Not to mention they’re visually stunning too.
Intelligence is organized matter.

I believe this, and all the weird--ethical?--implications.

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Earlier, Bruce's Inflation (cosmic) thread had me thinking-- the universe was too hot for atoms to form, for 380,000 years. That's a long time-- long enough for matter, such as it was, to organize into intelligence? Could it have survived, evolved, adapted to a cooling universe, become embedded in the later, more structured matter that was to form? Or, as a rare form of intelligent matter inside the hot soup of exotic stars?

Could things like the unexplained disparity between matter and anti-matter constitute a conscious decision by the universe, or pockets of conscious agency within large chunks of the universe? Kind of like, a huge de-centralized "slime mold" ??

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What if intelligence is the default state of matter, and we've been grossly mis-classifying what intelligence is?
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Old 12-07-2019, 12:46 AM   #692
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Slime mold is smarter than most people? Yeah, I'll buy that.
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Old 12-07-2019, 06:46 PM   #693
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:56 AM   #694
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What if intelligence is the default state of matter, and we've been grossly mis-classifying what intelligence is?
I'll buy it, though I tend toward the reverse perspective: it's not that the universe is as smart as we are, it's that we're as dumb as slime molds.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:44 AM   #695
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Old 12-09-2019, 05:13 PM   #696
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What if intelligence is the default state of matter, and we've been grossly mis-classifying what intelligence is?
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I'll buy it, though I tend toward the reverse perspective: it's not that the universe is as smart as we are, it's that we're as dumb as slime molds.
Yes, agreed. Not specified in my original post is my militant anti-anthropomorhic perspective. We are an illogical yardstick with which to measure anything against.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:13 PM   #697
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it may just be a matter of scale. we may be too small to see the overarching intelligence at work around us.
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:45 PM   #698
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A-couple-of-days-ago IL is called an obelus, and TIL use ALT + 246 to type it.
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Old 01-31-2020, 02:56 PM   #699
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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...037537669B4B7#

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Old 01-31-2020, 04:22 PM   #700
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I've been telling you about poop molecules for years
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:56 PM   #701
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I thought that had been poo pooed
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Old 01-31-2020, 11:51 PM   #702
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But hospitals use commercial toilets that flush much more violently than home toilets with a tank. They will stir up a lot more aerosols than yours, and the little yours does kicks up keeps your immune system healthy. If you don't feel your toilet is kicking up enough poop particles scrub the toilet with your toothbrush.
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Today I learned that the word Pączki has a little squiggle on the a, and that squiggle is called an ogonek. Pronunciation of pączki is something like "poonch-key", and the ogonek (which means little tail in Polish) nasalizes the vowel sound.

For the uninitiated, pączkis are a Polish thing - filled heavy donuts eaten on Fat Tuesday, big in Detroit environs -centered around Hamtramck -people will commute quite some distance to get genuine Hamtramck pączkis
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