Future of Republican Party

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Nationalized health care hasn't happened in the US. Obamacare is pretty much all based on Republican proposals.

Cap and trade was invented by Republicans.

Quit with the facts, already!

We like to make stuff UP. It's way more FUN.


It's like the History Channel 2! Aliens did it!

[Adak]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Nationalized health care hasn't happened in the US. Obamacare is pretty much all based on Republican proposals.

Cap and trade was invented by Republicans.

You've had enough booze today, Monkey.

[BigV]

Originally Posted by Adak

You've had enough booze today, Monkey.

ad hominem attacks are how true conservatives on the radio deflect inconvenient truths.

[Lamplighter]

Rush Limbaugh was his usual self after this election,
but he did raise the question about the future of the Republican Party.

His off-the-wall remark that followed was:
What are we supposed to do about immigration
... repeal all the immigration laws ?

My belief is that if the Republican Party wants to make any inroads into the Hispanic community,
they must abandon their talking points that anything leading to citizenship is "amnesty".

An easy compromise for the Republicans could be to grant full US citizenship
for any person who was brought into the USA by their parent(s) before they were 22 years of age.
...(21 used to be the legal age of majority)

All this (crap) about having to first serve in the military or do public service
is just a artificial road block to those who are now labeled as "illegal aliens"
only because, as minors, they did what their parents required them to do.
You might think Republicans could view that was a good "family value"

If Republicans can't make such a small compromise on immigration,
they will remain what they have been for a long time,
a minority party that has to resort to race-baiting among
the whites of this country.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Adak

You've had enough booze today, Monkey.

You've got nothing, eh?


Cap and trade was invented by a Reagan lawyer, and implemented by GHW Bush.

And much of Obamacare is Romneycare.

[DanaC]

Adak, I thought you said you would be in favour of a national health system, as long as it was done right?

[Trilby]

maybe...just maybe...we're going back to a matriarchy!!!!!


this distresses my older son very, very much (he's a white Christian male in business school and he fully expects to become one of the 1% and I hope to Christ he DOES become one of them as I'm going to need that money in the future to buy tchochkes and hats and such) we had lunch yesterday (as a typical Republican, he made me pick up the tab and he was telling me that the US was a male-centric country, with masculine virtues rating high on the list of desirable attributes. He then insulted Norway and Finland by calling them, in essence, "girly nations" who cared about compassion over defense.

then he ate another muffin.

Then I told him America isn't all THAT macho - look at any country in South America or the Middle East for REAL value of masculinity. Then I told him Germany was run by a woman. He didn't believe me and said he was going to ask his German prof. Shit, I didn't even KNOW he was taking German!

It was an okay lunch, food-wise. The cinnamon roll could've had more frosting but then I say that about almost all cinnamon rolls.

[DanaC]

Ha!

Funny, these things come around. It is a common theme in the formation and maintenance of national identity, to paint the home nation 'male' in contrast to a feminized other.

[Trilby]

My son...he's so patriotic he bleeds red, white and blue.

My other, younger son is Norway.

it's really weird having these two - like the sun and the moon.

My older boy also believes that if you say something, or truly, truly believe it, it is true. Kinda like The Secret or magic or something.

[Clodfobble]

My dad called to tell me happy birthday yesterday, which meant I had to listen to him be all depressed about the election, which I knew would happen. I have a hands-free headset for the house phone that I use only for calls with him. I let him talk ignorant politics at me while I cook or fold my laundry, because he is old and lonely and no one else will listen to him, and I love him regardless.

BUT. One of his new talking points struck me as so funny that I just couldn't keep from giggling at him yesterday.

Did you know... that the numerical margin between Obama's votes and Romney's votes was exactly the same as the number of new people enrolled in the food stamp program since he took office? The Democrats bought the election with tasty, tasty free food! I swear to God. And he's not the type to make up his own talking points, so someone--Glenn Beck, or Rush, or maybe even someone on Fox News--actually said this.

[richlevy]

If you saw the Karl Rove meltdown video, and I know you did, here's the reason why.

Many of the lightning bolts were aimed at none other than Karl Rove, the former Bush administration political genius who oversaw the deployment of nearly $400 million in campaign spending through outside groups American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS toward the presidential race and toward numerous Senate and House races.
"The billionaire donors I hear are livid," one Republican operative told The Huffington Post. "There is some holy hell to pay. Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do … I don't know how you tell your donors that we spent $390 million and got nothing."

So the Citizens United Supreme Court decision turned into a 400 million dollar money hole (and that's just Karl Rove's part, the complete total is closer to 700 million) that big Republican donors filled, with the end result that Obama is still president and the Democrats actually picked up Senate seats.

I weep for them, really I do.

[Trilby]

gee, richlevy, you sound kind of...well, to be blunt, insincere; but, you know, it DID pump a lot of money into the economy...so...there's that.

Now allow me to brush a single tear from my eye for them.

[Happy Monkey]

And the "liberal media" got all that cash.

[Griff]

$400 million of redistributed income... no wonder they're pissed.

[tw]

Well, the Republican Party has (should have) made a decision what they want to do. What is it? First indications should be apparent this week.